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Your comment also reminded me of something I saw. Some guy put the photos of a male model on his profile then started messaging women with really crude/direct m

by rosege 8y ago

Your comment also reminded me of something I saw. Some guy put the photos of a male model on his profile then started messaging women with really crude/direct messages that there is no way the average guy would have got anywhere with or would have been shouted down - from what he made out nearly all of them sent him their number straight away

skookumchuck 8y ago
Sounds like you should dress and pose like a model.
- badpun 8y ago
  Yes, because models are attractive because of their clothes and the poses they take.
  - vidarh 8y ago
    No, but most people can do a lot about their appearance. Neil Strauss once in frustration pointed out that after The Game was published, his look became a cliche because guys were copying him. Not because it was particularly fantastic, but because the changes he'd made to his own style were quick and simple fixes. E.g. balding? Not easy to fix, but easy to shave it all off. Bad sense of style? Some things are hard to get wrong, so follow some basic "safe" advice and stick to it. It won't get you to model looks, but look around you and see how many people wear clothes that don't fit properly, for example, and how awful it often looks. It's not hard to fix, yet people (me included) often just see themselves blind to it because for most guys it's well down the priority list.
    - fapjacks 8y ago
      Right. This is important and it's pretty obvious that a lot of guys just put zero effort into presenting themselves in a positive way. I went through my entire twenties living like some kind of goblin. The rules are things that everyone knows, but they take a small amount of effort that some people aren't willing to expend, even for the sake of getting a date. Take a shower, brush those teeth, and wear deodorant! Interpersonal Skills 101: Be honest, be respectful, be yourself. Have some manners and open doors for other people wherever there are doors and other people. For crying out loud, chew with your mouth closed, you troll! Don't wear clothes with food stains on them. Go for a run and stop smoking. Just have some self-respect and try to be a more thoughtful individual. Now I'll be the first to admit that it took me many years to start checking the blocks on this list. But it costs essentially nothing, yet as always, people remain change-resistant.
  - graeme 8y ago
    If your photos become more modelly this would work much better than you'd think.
  - skookumchuck 8y ago
    Models go to great effort to select the clothes, the photographer, the pose, etc., because it works.
FuckOffNeemo 8y ago
It's essentially a meme at this point: Step by step guide to to getting a date on an online dating site: 1) Be attractive Casually Explained's videos on Dating and Is She Into you are strokes of beauty. Dating: https://youtu.be/ZuzPcW4djrA https://youtu.be/ZuzPcW4djrA Is She Into You: https://youtu.be/xa-4IAR_9Yw https://youtu.be/xa-4IAR_9Yw
lloeki 8y ago
> Some guy put the photos of a male model on his profile then started messaging women with really crude/direct messages Did they do the same test where identical messages were sent, only with a "reasonably handsome" guy? Because being bold and displaying confidence goes a loooong way.
- rosege 8y ago
  if you look at Tinder nightmares you will see lots of examples of regular guys saying these things.
HeyLaughingBoy 8y ago
Maybe. But I think OP's getting results because he's being funny, sounds interesting and is creative. That gets you a long way with most people, men or women. Most guys on dating sites (going from the women who've shown me profiles of those who messaged them), are creepy, reek of desperation, and have absolutely no self-esteem.

by rosege 8y ago

skookumchuck 8y ago

Sounds like you should dress and pose like a model.

badpun 8y ago
Yes, because models are attractive because of their clothes and the poses they take.
- vidarh 8y ago
  No, but most people can do a lot about their appearance. Neil Strauss once in frustration pointed out that after The Game was published, his look became a cliche because guys were copying him. Not because it was particularly fantastic, but because the changes he'd made to his own style were quick and simple fixes. E.g. balding? Not easy to fix, but easy to shave it all off. Bad sense of style? Some things are hard to get wrong, so follow some basic "safe" advice and stick to it. It won't get you to model looks, but look around you and see how many people wear clothes that don't fit properly, for example, and how awful it often looks. It's not hard to fix, yet people (me included) often just see themselves blind to it because for most guys it's well down the priority list.
  - fapjacks 8y ago
    Right. This is important and it's pretty obvious that a lot of guys just put zero effort into presenting themselves in a positive way. I went through my entire twenties living like some kind of goblin. The rules are things that everyone knows, but they take a small amount of effort that some people aren't willing to expend, even for the sake of getting a date. Take a shower, brush those teeth, and wear deodorant! Interpersonal Skills 101: Be honest, be respectful, be yourself. Have some manners and open doors for other people wherever there are doors and other people. For crying out loud, chew with your mouth closed, you troll! Don't wear clothes with food stains on them. Go for a run and stop smoking. Just have some self-respect and try to be a more thoughtful individual. Now I'll be the first to admit that it took me many years to start checking the blocks on this list. But it costs essentially nothing, yet as always, people remain change-resistant.
- graeme 8y ago
  If your photos become more modelly this would work much better than you'd think.
- skookumchuck 8y ago
  Models go to great effort to select the clothes, the photographer, the pose, etc., because it works.

FuckOffNeemo 8y ago

It's essentially a meme at this point: Step by step guide to to getting a date on an online dating site: 1) Be attractive Casually Explained's videos on Dating and Is She Into you are strokes of beauty. Dating: https://youtu.be/ZuzPcW4djrA https://youtu.be/ZuzPcW4djrA Is She Into You: https://youtu.be/xa-4IAR_9Yw https://youtu.be/xa-4IAR_9Yw

lloeki 8y ago

> Some guy put the photos of a male model on his profile then started messaging women with really crude/direct messages Did they do the same test where identical messages were sent, only with a "reasonably handsome" guy? Because being bold and displaying confidence goes a loooong way.

rosege 8y ago
if you look at Tinder nightmares you will see lots of examples of regular guys saying these things.

HeyLaughingBoy 8y ago

Maybe. But I think OP's getting results because he's being funny, sounds interesting and is creative. That gets you a long way with most people, men or women. Most guys on dating sites (going from the women who've shown me profiles of those who messaged them), are creepy, reek of desperation, and have absolutely no self-esteem.