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> But this isn't true. No one knows anything about a user on Stack Overflow unless they explicitly announce it, and generally my perception seems to be a disdai
by valtism 8y ago
> But this isn't true. No one knows anything about a user on Stack Overflow unless they explicitly announce it, and generally my perception seems to be a disdain towards newer members in general, not ones from any particular group.
Why would you say this with such conviction when you don't know anything about what the team is doing behind the scenes? They do yearly surveys that do include things like culture / minority status as well as questions about inclusion.
I can't help but feel like this is just another white male majority site jumping to shut down this type of discussion before it even starts.
- dgreensp 8y ago100% this. To say that the author of the post — whose job includes knowing whether women and minorities feel particularly unwelcome or not, based on actual data and talking to them — must have invented this point is rather outlandish. Based on what? An online community can’t possibly be less welcoming to women, for example... because it has screen names? Because people don’t express open disdain for women like they do for newbies? You don’t have to be an expert on this stuff to know not to rush to hasty conclusions, especially in the face of evidence.
- svick 8y ago> To say that the author of the post — whose job includes knowing whether women and minorities feel particularly unwelcome or not, based on actual data and talking to them — must have invented this point is rather outlandish. Based on what? Based on the fact that he did not share a bit of that data or any other kind of evidence. That's especially jarring on the Stack Overflow Blog, which is full of posts that are nothing but data. It does not necessarily mean that there is no data, but it does make me suspicious.
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- cup-of-tea 8y agoThere was no evidence shown, though. That almost certainly means it doesn't exist. Maybe they do know that most programmers fit a particular stereotype (white/asian man), but that isn't because other people find stackoverflow "unwelcoming".
- forapurpose 8y ago> There was no evidence shown, though. That almost certainly means it doesn't exist. OK, using that reasoning, what evidence do you have to support your statements? What evidence do you have that supports the reasoning quoted above?
- polychloriert 8y agoAre you being sarcastic? It is impossible to prove that something does not exist. On the other hand, it is quite easy to check that the original submission does not contain any evidence.