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> justifying like this strikes me as pointless virtue signaling. Agree 100%. This part is especially troubling: > Feelings have no “technically correct.” They

> justifying like this strikes me as pointless virtue signaling. Agree 100%. This part is especially troubling: > Feelings have no “technically correct.” They’re just what the feeler is telling you. When someone tells you how they feel, you can pack up your magnifying glass and clue kit, cuz that’s the answer. If I say "The sky is blue" and you say "That's offensive to people who aren't blue", you're just wrong. End of story. It's sad that this is even worth saying, but that's what our micro-aggression and victimhood-obsessed society has come to. People are practically competing to see who can be the most offended.

chronomex 8y ago
That's not what they said though. They said "if you want to know if someone feels welcome, and you ask them, and they say they don't feel welcome, then you're done researching whether or not they feel welcome".
- dfundako 8y ago
  You are right. What it seems like a lot of people in these comments are saying is that the question perhaps should not stop at "Do you feel welcome?" because that only explores feelings of one side, which is highly subjective. If you invite someone into your house, they come in with muddy shoes and make a mess even though you had a sign at the door asking them to please wipe their feet, they might feel unwelcome when you ask them to go back, read the sign, and take off their shoes. The invitee might be offended, but the homeowner is justified and their feelings and the entire situation need to be considered. It is not "End of Discussion" once someone is offended.
s73v3r_ 8y ago
"If I say "The sky is blue" and you say "That's offensive to people who aren't blue", you're just wrong. End of story." That's not even close to the situation at hand. "People are practically competing to see who can be the most offended." Aren't you, just now, being offended that people are, not even really being offended at things, but really at trying to listen to people saying that they don't feel welcome, and trying to address that? Why is trying to make a more welcoming and open community such a sin?

chronomex 8y ago

That's not what they said though. They said "if you want to know if someone feels welcome, and you ask them, and they say they don't feel welcome, then you're done researching whether or not they feel welcome".

dfundako 8y ago
You are right. What it seems like a lot of people in these comments are saying is that the question perhaps should not stop at "Do you feel welcome?" because that only explores feelings of one side, which is highly subjective. If you invite someone into your house, they come in with muddy shoes and make a mess even though you had a sign at the door asking them to please wipe their feet, they might feel unwelcome when you ask them to go back, read the sign, and take off their shoes. The invitee might be offended, but the homeowner is justified and their feelings and the entire situation need to be considered. It is not "End of Discussion" once someone is offended.

s73v3r_ 8y ago

"If I say "The sky is blue" and you say "That's offensive to people who aren't blue", you're just wrong. End of story." That's not even close to the situation at hand. "People are practically competing to see who can be the most offended." Aren't you, just now, being offended that people are, not even really being offended at things, but really at trying to listen to people saying that they don't feel welcome, and trying to address that? Why is trying to make a more welcoming and open community such a sin?