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This is some of the wrongest I've ever seen Ben be. I'm not sure how you can write an article about "open" vs. "secure" vs. "private" messaging/communication an
by zaksoup 8y ago
This is some of the wrongest I've ever seen Ben be. I'm not sure how you can write an article about "open" vs. "secure" vs. "private" messaging/communication and fail to mention Signal (an "open" and "private" protocol that FB Messenger happens to use for their so-called 'secret chats') or Telegram.
Both are 'open' (Signal is fully open source, Telegram has fully open source clients and an open protocol so anybody could technical implement the Telegram technology).
Open is emphatically not the enemy of Secure, and framing it that was is ignorant of the incredible work folks like Open Whisper Systems are doing to create Open, Private, AND Secure messaging and communication platforms.
Silliness.
- erikpukinskis 8y agoHow can you consider Signal “open” if the only way to message Signal users is in the Signal app?
- zaksoup 8y agoI think some of this is just confusion about "open" vs. "federated". Moxie doesn't like the federated model but anybody can write a signal client that uses the signal protocol (FB Secret Chats), and OWS's code itself is all open source.
- erikpukinskis 8y agoWhat good would that do? In what sense is that any degree of meaningful openness?