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Confirmed: Google Me coming this Fall
- rodh257 16y agoThis sounds like a good move from Google, do something akin to Facebook instant personalization in their other products, rather than creating the next facebook/myspace/bebo clone.
- lotusleaf1987 16y agoThis is exactly what I don't want, more stuff forced onto me through my Gmail account. Stop using Gmail as a trojan horse please Google. They should just make a standalone clone Facebook that can integrate with Google's services, if desired. I really disliked the way Buzz was forced onto me and I really don't like the way that the new chat box won't go away and you have to manually hide each contact. Just buy Twitter and use their talent, you've got the cash and it's not really in Google's genetics for social.
- omnigoat 16y agoTrojan horse? Strawman, baby! Using your gmail as a username isn't bad. It makes it easy to know where to send you emails for account details and such. However, I think GMail needs a revamp if it's going to be the focal point of many integrated systems. What I don't want is another Facebook clone. A developer-centric social layer, to integrate various components of their developer infrastructure (google code/analytics/adsense, etc), could work. Could. They've got a bad track-record at "social".
- Garbage 16y ago> What I don't want is another Facebook clone I think for this time, this is exactly what Google needs to do to kick facebook out of business. Facebook platform is a proven success. If Google clone it, they will eventually get users. Google have other sources of income. But for facebook, its just "Facebook.com". If "Google" makes the clone and gets users, facebook.com is almost dead then (read like "myspace").
- adbge 16y ago> If Google clone it, they will eventually get users. Why would anyone leave Facebook to join Google's ghost town? Further, Facebook is impossible to successfully clone because part of Facebook's inherent value is that it already has an incredibly large userbase.
- Garbage 16y ago> Why would anyone leave Facebook to join Google's ghost town? You don't have to leave Facebook. And most importantly (and highly likely) you don't need to join the ghost town. You are already there if you are using GMail. Don't you know that after using Buzz?
- doe88 16y agoBuzz? what is "Buzz"?
- riffraff 16y agothe question is: why would I _use_ it even if I joined it? I am a buzz user but I never posted anything directly through buzz. Why should I, the number of my friends on facebook is tenfold and does not include people that once mailed me about a typo in my blog.
- w1ntermute 16y ago> If Google clone it, they will eventually get users. That's highly unlikely. Facebook benefits from network effects so strong that Google would have to come up with something revolutionary in terms of social networking to replace Facebook.
- nanairo 16y agoTrue... though "clone it and eventually users will come" was Microsoft strategy, wasn't it? :D (ah, Microsoft, if you had only patented it! ;P ). But I'd be careful to consider Google vs. Facebook a done deal. Yes, Facebook has only one service... but Google gets all its money from ads, a Facebook could potentially have a much better profile of its users than Google. If Facebook starts chipping at Google's ads de-facto monopoly, it will really hurt Google. It will be a good fight for sure. :)
- heinel 16y agoI actually somewhat empathize with lotus's view that Gmail should just be Email and that's it. I think it is bad UX if people who just want email and not these confusing new "social" business have their software change in their face with disruptive noises. I think Google is moving in the right direction when they introduced that account page / dashboard thing that acts as a hub for Google services. Unfortunately there isn't much besides just the list there for now. What I'd hope is for Google Me to expand on this idea and actually show people how they are related to the data Google has about them, and more importantly, what they can do with it.
- pyre 16y agoLook at what they did with iGoogle. I don't like its loss of simplicity, but it would be a much better 'control center' for all these various offerings...
- gkoberger 16y agoI'm really interested to see how this goes. It's been a long time since Google released a "killer service." I'm really hoping Me is more than just a Facebook clone, and that they learned some lessons from Buzz (and Wave?).
- stellar678 16y agoI wonder if Facebook will be the new Netscape and this will be the new Internet Explorer 4.
- JacobAldridge 16y agoI wouldn't put money on it, but if this is IE4 then I think an analogous Facebook will probably be IE7 or IE8... or Chrome.
- stellar678 16y agoMy read is like this: Facebook / Netscape - Hotshot early player that does most of the early innovation, has near complete market penetration and doesn't quite hold on. Google Me / IE4 - After a few feeble attempts, the product that successfully takes over through a combination of (a) being forced upon a gargantuan installed base and (b) being a pretty decent product, as a result of the prior iterations.
- woogley 16y agoI would peg the "Hotshot early player" label to MySpace / Netscape
- notahacker 16y agoYup. Google Me is more like Google Chrome; however much better it might end up being it has a lot of work to win mindshare.
- houseabsolute 16y agoIt's an interesting thing to wonder, but I don't think Google has the juice to do this right. Recent evidence at least would suggest that it's more likely to fail than succeed.
- sown 16y agoI really use google just for search and their ads which I find useful and I often click more than any other kind of ad. I don't like where this is headed.
- larrykubin 16y agoWhy are so many people expecting this to be a "killer" when they have failed to gain much traction with their other attempts to compete with Facebook/Twitter. I don't know many people using Orkut, Wave, Buzz, Picasa, etc.
- c1sc0 16y agoWishful thinking? I know I want a Facebook "killer" to pop up soon. Network effects are what I hate & love most about the tech industry: why is it that something beautiful always has to be ruined once some player becomes big enough to dominate the space? PCs : Microsoft, Social Networking: Facebook, Mobile Apps: Apple
- tyng 16y agoWhat about Macs and Macbooks? they are making some serious progress over the last few years despite market domination by PCs for a long long time (almost everybody outside of design industry was using PCs). I think really great technology does eventually shine. To be fair though, iPod and iPhone did play a big role to give Apple the "coolness" as a whole, perhaps that's the right strategy - attack from the sidelines.
- riffraff 16y agoI would say macbooks are a point in favour of the previous poster. They made some serious progress by becoming intel machines, i.e. PCs.
- tyng 16y agoPerhaps a mixture of both. To me I made the switch when I got both an iPod and an iPhone so getting a Macbook was somewhat a natural next step when I needed to get a new laptop. Didn't care too much about what's inside the machine, the different OS experience was a major concern at the time though.
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- m3mb3r 16y agoWell, I hope they don't automatically sign me up and add my contacts from my GMail account like they did with Buzz. Partly because that's annoying and mainly because I don't want to belong to another social network.
- rooshdi 16y agoI wonder if Google Me will implement some search sharing elements and socialize the Google Search experience instead of offering another standard social network. A current web project of mine delves into this, but Google obviously has the resources to push this to the mainstream, similar to Google Instant, and make it much more valuable to users from the onset. It would be more risky than another standard social network, but much more relevant to their core search service. It's also interesting to speculate whether or not Google Me may be the social element around Google OS. We'll just have to wait and see.
- tyng 16y agoI have mixed feeling about this.... yet another attempt by Google to get social. I read an article somewhere else that the reason Google doesn't get social is because of its "geek" culture (no offense to fellow geeks, I'm just quoting the original article). Because Google is so technology focused, it sometimes loses its grip on human interaction. I can't say I'm totally agreeing with that article but it does make some sense. Wave for example, technologically excellent and revolutionary, but really hard to use for a non-tech person.
- nanairo 16y agoI am not sure about that. Though I do think there is a certain feeling of elitism within Google, like all the brightest people are inside (which to be honest it's probably a pretty good assessment). So I am not sure how much they can get the very real but very (intellectually) shallow world of social networks. Googlers seem to love to tackle hard problems (e.g. Wave and Instant search) but social networks are not a hard problem from an engineer point of view.
- tyng 16y ago"Googlers seem to love to tackle hard problems (e.g. Wave and Instant search) but social networks are not a hard problem from an engineer point of view." So the mentality goes: there's no motivation to come up with the next best social network, unless it can also simultaneously calculate the interconnectedness of every human being on this planet...
- nanairo 16y agoYep, I can see them getting excited data mining people's social networks. However before they do that they need to get the social network...
- rfugger 16y agoPrediction: privacy nightmare.
- regehr 16y agoWe can only hope that Google Millenium Edition lives up to the awesome legacy left behind by Windows ME.
- varjag 16y agoWhat a terrible name. Any relation to Dr. Evil's Mini Me?
- izendejas 16y agoGoogle doesn't want to be social, they just want "social graph" data--two very different things. It's why they've failed. Google needs to offer a compelling reason for people to transfer their profiles and hang around Google services in order to get the "social" part somewhat right. And then Google will succeed in getting the data they value most: the things you explicitly "like" or favorite, in this case,(with a bright yellow star). And that's where I think Freebase comes in--or so I hope.
- cracki 16y agothis is probably going to to the way of Buzz. they'll screw it up, it'll be intrusive, privacy will be violated. besides, how much more "social" can google get? someone at google is trying too hard.
- fauigerzigerk 16y agoI wonder what we actually want from "social". I know that I don't want to subscribe to some kind of friend spam merged with regular spam from advertisers or share "stuff" with people in my address book. That's totally useless for me and bloating all kinds of Google services with it will be annoying. What I do want is collaboration, ad hoc collaboration, project based collaboration, etc. I want to connect and integrate my data with that of others with less friction than today. Google should go after Microsoft Office and leave Facebook to Zuckerberg's "dumb fucks".
- smiler 16y agoI'm not sure most people would want their searching habits to be 'social' in that plenty of people want to Google for stuff in their own time without anyone else knowing about it.
- edparcell 16y agoI misread that, thinking it was odd that Google would fall to copying Microsoft, and surprising they would copy Windows Me. Reading about the product left me slightly less impressed. Facebook already has social covered, and I've pretty much stopped using it. Buzz does not - Google don't get it, and they don't get that they don't get it. If Google Me was an upgrade to a desktop application, I probably wouldn't bother to install it. As it is, I'll look forward to having my cheese moved again.
- ziweb 16y agoI'm hesitant about the social layers search stuff. Honestly, the data I put on the web is personal, and it deserves its own respect. Its not just a statistic. If my friend wants to know what I think about something they can email me. I think it would be a brilliant move by Google to combine their separate services into something similar to Facebook. Google has all the parts, like video (Youtube), pics (Picasa), mini-blogs (Buzz), chat, and e-mail. They do all of this better than Facebook, and add Google Voice on top of it. It's just natural for them to start a social network that integrates all of these different parts.
- zmmmmm 16y agoThis will be a good test of whether Google has learned anything from their previous failures - Wave, Buzz, etc. Both were excellent products technically and both failed to take off. I'm particularly sad about Buzz because it is much much better technically and feature wise than Twitter. The problem is, I think the key to it is going to be something they'll never do - lack of integration. They have to totally utterly separate this from search and gmail. If they mix these things then it'll be yet another product where the public is confused and uncertain about what it is, what it does, and why it does it. It has to be simple - the way the original Google was simpler than any of its competitors. They have to remember their roots here. Do it simple. Do it incredibly well. Make it clean and unambiguous.
- rakkhi 16y agoI think it is interesting that Google said that Google Me will not be something that is standalone but suggests they are learning the lessons from the past. Mashable had a good article on the demise of Wave and the lessons that can be learned (http://mashable.com/2010/08/06/google-wave-lessons/ http://mashable.com/2010/08/06/google-wave-lessons/) Lesson 1: Keep Expectations in Check They have announced it now for Fall, make sure they release in fall and if it is private beta, make sure that does not go for longer than 1-2 months. Keep the media in check Lesson 2: Make Your Product Clear They clearly need to state what this is and what is not. E.g. it is not Facebook, it is not Twitter it is a way to add more social functions and collaboration to your existing Google services Lesson 3: Launch When Ready Linked to point 1 but it has to have a good level of quality at launch. Lesson 4: Have Real Value If it replicates things I can get already from Facebook or Twitter it is not going to add value. If it does allow me to get the best results from my private services (e.g. Facebook, twitter, Google reader) like Greplin but with instant search directly from my Google window that would be valuable. If it gives me Rapportive but in a way that works in Gmail awesome. If it gives me Wisesync but in a way that works in Chromium also valuable. If it lets me play video directly from my Gmail inbox or "like" something within my inbox or search and "stream" this to my social feeds If it gives me a feature like mysixthsense within search or google reader or adds in Postrank as a google lab feature to inbox and search these would also be valuable to me.
- brown9-2 16y agoAm I the only one who thinks that the idea that Google needs to "get into social" is a big mistake and a bad move? They're being duped into spending a lot of time on energy on something where it isn't clear that they'll get the equivalent value back. They already dominate advertising. What else is there to gain here? It's like Microsoft feeling like they need to create a competing search engine. The game has already been won.
- powrtoch 16y agoPoor naming: "Google me" is already a verb phrase. If the overlap was intentional, I don't think it was wise.
- nagnatron 16y agoI sincerely hope that it will be horrible so that I'm not tempted to hand over even more of my personal life to Google. No offence to the people building it.
- zavulon 16y agoIt's hard to pinpoint when, but I think at some point last year I stopped viewing Google as "special" and started considering them just one of many companies. To me, Google was special because all their early products were made to solve very hard problems that me, among many other people had: search sucked, webmail sucked, etc. That Google is dead, I'm afraid. Wave, Buzz, and now (probably) Google Me.. all products created with shady goals, terrible execution, disdain for privacy. Most importantly, they are products that NO ONE FUCKING NEEDS. I'm still continuing using Gmail and Google for search because they are the best (although DDG is close, and I'm rooting for them). But I'm definitely looking elsewhere for anything close to innovation. /rant