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Lol, a better question is "How much would you pay to eliminate google from your life forever." because why the hell would I ever give someone money to spy on my

Lol, a better question is "How much would you pay to eliminate google from your life forever." because why the hell would I ever give someone money to spy on my personal life? This kind of thing really makes me question how capable people are of grasping how completely they are being exploited and taken advantage of. Google should be paying us for the use of our data. How did we get to this point where humans think it is their purpose to be juiced for money by faceless corporations until they die? And now we can pay for the privilege!!! lol.

privong 8y ago
> because why the hell would I ever give someone money to spy on my personal life? I think the idea is that if you were paying them, they wouldn't be spying on you because you've become the customer and not the product.
- originalsimba 8y ago
  I think that idea has been proven wrong in every single application of it in the entire history of human activities. There is not a single example anywhere that anyone can point to, where someone afforded that level of trust lived up to their responsibilities. I invite you to cite some examples which prove my hypothesis wrong. But history would suggest that we should never, ever, ever trust _anyone_ in that particular way.
jjeaff 8y ago
I kind of like the status quo. I block all ads on all my devices and networks. So I get free services that are great. So as far as I know, they don't really make any money off of me (probably some edge cases where they do), and while they are collecting data on me, I don't get served any ads based on that data. This is of course not sustainable for Google, so I rely on the willingness of others to consume ads.
- originalsimba 8y ago
  Of course this depends on what services we're discussing but for example, ad blockers and privacy badger cannot prevent Google from reading your E-mail contents. The only thing that can stop that is PGP, and it's not a coincidence that Google has refused to provide any built-in method of E-mail encryption. They know what they're doing. They know it's wrong. Inside they are laughing at their "users" who think they're getting any sort of value from the service. Fact is, Google does not offer _anything_ that is not also offered by someone else, and often without all the exploitative policies.
  - jjeaff 8y ago
    Ya, but so what? They are reading my emails in order to serve me ads... which I will never see.

privong 8y ago

> because why the hell would I ever give someone money to spy on my personal life? I think the idea is that if you were paying them, they wouldn't be spying on you because you've become the customer and not the product.

originalsimba 8y ago
I think that idea has been proven wrong in every single application of it in the entire history of human activities. There is not a single example anywhere that anyone can point to, where someone afforded that level of trust lived up to their responsibilities. I invite you to cite some examples which prove my hypothesis wrong. But history would suggest that we should never, ever, ever trust _anyone_ in that particular way.

jjeaff 8y ago

I kind of like the status quo. I block all ads on all my devices and networks. So I get free services that are great. So as far as I know, they don't really make any money off of me (probably some edge cases where they do), and while they are collecting data on me, I don't get served any ads based on that data. This is of course not sustainable for Google, so I rely on the willingness of others to consume ads.

originalsimba 8y ago
Of course this depends on what services we're discussing but for example, ad blockers and privacy badger cannot prevent Google from reading your E-mail contents. The only thing that can stop that is PGP, and it's not a coincidence that Google has refused to provide any built-in method of E-mail encryption. They know what they're doing. They know it's wrong. Inside they are laughing at their "users" who think they're getting any sort of value from the service. Fact is, Google does not offer _anything_ that is not also offered by someone else, and often without all the exploitative policies.
- jjeaff 8y ago
  Ya, but so what? They are reading my emails in order to serve me ads... which I will never see.