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> 3. Totalitarian maintainer. Pwnies award for lamest vendor response 2017 covers my complaints there. It really doesn't. One of the pull requests they link to

> 3. Totalitarian maintainer. Pwnies award for lamest vendor response 2017 covers my complaints there. It really doesn't. One of the pull requests they link to as the "lamest vendor response" literally has only three comments from Poettering, one which says "Looks great otherwise", one which says "excellent! thanks a ton for fixing this!", and one which answers a question about why a local variable is named MTU. Seriously, this is the thread itself: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/6214 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/6214 There's another linked thread where he admits that they misjudged a commit as irrelevant, but explains that they can't rewrite git history, which is unfortunate but hard to take serious issue with. And a third where he says that systemd will defer to validating input according to POSIX and other common cross-distribution requirements, instead of enforcing its own, stricter set of requirements that would actually break other systems. It's not even hard to find places where Poettering has said something that makes him look less sympathetic than this stuff. But referring to these as the "lamest vendor response" really just makes it look like they're searching for anything to take issue with for Poettering himself, regardless of the topic at hand.

the_why_of_y 8y ago
Just to have some context, the very same Pwnie "lamest vendor response" award was given to the OpenBSD project in 2007.
jancsika 8y ago
> It's not even hard to find places where Poettering has said something that makes him look less sympathetic than this stuff. Right, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skPOeOPGpwM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skPOeOPGpwM That is a CCC talk where Poettering takes the presenter's invitation for a single response as a cue to interrupt the rest of his presentation slides. Responses like, "Do you hate handicapped people?" give you a taste of the general decorum with which Poettering handled himself. That's not to say that Poettering isn't entitled to some response, nor that all his responses in that video are unfounded. But interrupting a presenter's presentation is extremely aggressive behavior. Even the CCC presenter who trashed Perl 5 two years in a row in a fairly distasteful fashion was met with polite responses from the audience. What's amazing is that Poettering consequently wrote a piece blaming Linus Torvalds for the sorry state of communication in open source[1]. I'm certainly not a fan of Linus' outbursts. But an audience member making a hostile takeover of a tech presentation is the stuff of nightmares. Anyone capable of doing that has no business opining on the health of open source communication. [1] https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/post...

the_why_of_y 8y ago

Just to have some context, the very same Pwnie "lamest vendor response" award was given to the OpenBSD project in 2007.

jancsika 8y ago

> It's not even hard to find places where Poettering has said something that makes him look less sympathetic than this stuff. Right, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skPOeOPGpwM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skPOeOPGpwM That is a CCC talk where Poettering takes the presenter's invitation for a single response as a cue to interrupt the rest of his presentation slides. Responses like, "Do you hate handicapped people?" give you a taste of the general decorum with which Poettering handled himself. That's not to say that Poettering isn't entitled to some response, nor that all his responses in that video are unfounded. But interrupting a presenter's presentation is extremely aggressive behavior. Even the CCC presenter who trashed Perl 5 two years in a row in a fairly distasteful fashion was met with polite responses from the audience. What's amazing is that Poettering consequently wrote a piece blaming Linus Torvalds for the sorry state of communication in open source[1]. I'm certainly not a fan of Linus' outbursts. But an audience member making a hostile takeover of a tech presentation is the stuff of nightmares. Anyone capable of doing that has no business opining on the health of open source communication. [1] https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/post...