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What better way than to link you to google? :) http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=engineer+turnover+google http://www.google.com/search?so

by rjurney 16y ago

What better way than to link you to google? :) http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=engineer+turnover+google http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&#3... And specifically http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/01/google-making-extraordinary-counteroffers-to-stop-flow-of-employees-to-facebook/ http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/01/google-making-extraordinary... More generally, this is common knowledge around the valley.

birken 16y ago
I think Google has about 10,000 engineers, so this article is saying that over the past 5 years, approx 1% of Google engineers have moved to Facebook. I think this article is light on facts and high on sensationalism. And it is "common knowledge" that Google has "very high churn and dissatisfaction rates"? Is that because Techcrunch or Valleywag says so? I think there is a large vocal minority of (in most cases) non-Google employees who are so quick to talk about how Google is a terrible place to work and everybody hates it. And internally at Google, there are a bunch of happy employees who just laugh at all the made up stories about how they are supposed to feel. Look, people are going to leave Google. That is what is going to happen when you have a bunch of really young and talented engineers working in a big company, but don't think this is because Google is some terrible place to work. I'll bet the satisfaction rates of Google employees is among the highest of any large company.
- rjurney 16y ago
  That article, yes. Check out any of the many in the google search. This one stands out: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124269038041932531.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124269038041932531.html This is well covered. As to 'common knowledge,' it is common knowledge outside of google that tons of people are leaving because every week someone new shows up from google at these companies. Enough that people notice, kinda like Yahoo. Google is melting. The other oft cited metric is the headcount freeze, while there is still aggressive hiring. Put that together... turnover. If you like it, I don't think Google is a terrible place to work. The opposite is true I'm sure. You're getting a disk golf course that we're not allowed to use ( bastards ;) ). But for whatever reason, dissatisfaction and turnover are high. This could simply be attributed to being all growds up.
  - nostrademons 16y ago
    (Disclaimer: happy Google employee here.) I do know the numbers, though I can't share them, and Google's turnover is ridiculously low. Much lower than I would expect from any company in Silicon Valley, which has a notoriously fluid job market. It's also false that there's a headcount freeze: the total number of employees at Google has increased significantly over the past year.
    - rjurney 16y ago
      It is false that there wasn't a headcount freeze, it did however end.
      - nostrademons 16y ago
        But in the time period when there was a headcount freeze, Google was not hiring "lots of people".
        rjurney 16y ago
        That is at odds with what I saw in that google search. Google was hiring lots of people to replace people that left
        nostrademons 16y ago
        When will people learn not to believe everything they read on the Internet?
        rjurney 16y ago
        When will people learn not to believe everything they read on the intranet?
brown9-2 16y ago
These are anecdotes, not real data.

by rjurney 16y ago

birken 16y ago

I think Google has about 10,000 engineers, so this article is saying that over the past 5 years, approx 1% of Google engineers have moved to Facebook. I think this article is light on facts and high on sensationalism. And it is "common knowledge" that Google has "very high churn and dissatisfaction rates"? Is that because Techcrunch or Valleywag says so? I think there is a large vocal minority of (in most cases) non-Google employees who are so quick to talk about how Google is a terrible place to work and everybody hates it. And internally at Google, there are a bunch of happy employees who just laugh at all the made up stories about how they are supposed to feel. Look, people are going to leave Google. That is what is going to happen when you have a bunch of really young and talented engineers working in a big company, but don't think this is because Google is some terrible place to work. I'll bet the satisfaction rates of Google employees is among the highest of any large company.

rjurney 16y ago
That article, yes. Check out any of the many in the google search. This one stands out: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124269038041932531.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124269038041932531.html This is well covered. As to 'common knowledge,' it is common knowledge outside of google that tons of people are leaving because every week someone new shows up from google at these companies. Enough that people notice, kinda like Yahoo. Google is melting. The other oft cited metric is the headcount freeze, while there is still aggressive hiring. Put that together... turnover. If you like it, I don't think Google is a terrible place to work. The opposite is true I'm sure. You're getting a disk golf course that we're not allowed to use ( bastards ;) ). But for whatever reason, dissatisfaction and turnover are high. This could simply be attributed to being all growds up.
- nostrademons 16y ago
  (Disclaimer: happy Google employee here.) I do know the numbers, though I can't share them, and Google's turnover is ridiculously low. Much lower than I would expect from any company in Silicon Valley, which has a notoriously fluid job market. It's also false that there's a headcount freeze: the total number of employees at Google has increased significantly over the past year.
  - rjurney 16y ago
    It is false that there wasn't a headcount freeze, it did however end.
    - nostrademons 16y ago
      But in the time period when there was a headcount freeze, Google was not hiring "lots of people".
      - rjurney 16y ago
        That is at odds with what I saw in that google search. Google was hiring lots of people to replace people that left
        nostrademons 16y ago
        When will people learn not to believe everything they read on the Internet?
        rjurney 16y ago
        When will people learn not to believe everything they read on the intranet?

brown9-2 16y ago

These are anecdotes, not real data.