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Peruse Tesla owner forums and reddit. The model 3 in particular has quality issues on brand new cars. Compare it to buying a Honda or Toyota - you're not going

by nvarsj 9y ago

Peruse Tesla owner forums and reddit. The model 3 in particular has quality issues on brand new cars. Compare it to buying a Honda or Toyota - you're not going to have the kinds of problems described.

NickM 9y ago
Well of course you're going to see people post about issues they're having if you look on forums. Nobody goes out of their way to look on forums and make posts sharing their frustration over the lack of problems they have with their car.
- nvarsj 9y ago
  I've been on Honda and Toyota forums in the past, and there was nothing like "my car panels are misaligned fresh out of the factory".
  - NickM 9y ago
    Come on, I'm trying to be scientific about this and you're just going to swing in with a rude, ad hominem argument about "Tesla fanboys"? Claiming that Tesla having bad QC is "common knowledge" doesn't somehow insulate you and your friends from stuff like confirmation bias. And to address your other point, if you search the web for panel alignment issues on Honda or Toyota cars there seem to be plenty of those out there as well.
    - nvarsj 9y ago
      Fair enough! My main point was it's not clear that engineers at Tesla are better than those elsewhere. Even if all car companies are terrible. The other biases are my own, and are purely anecdotal based on my own experience and what others tell me. I'll leave it to other people with more time to do a scientific comparison.
sowbug 9y ago
I did what you asked. I stopped after a few minutes. http://www.odyclub.com/forums/54-2011-2017-odyssey/197033-body-panel-alignment-what-normal.html#/topics/197033 http://www.odyclub.com/forums/54-2011-2017-odyssey/197033-bo... https://www.civicx.com/threads/any-issues-so-far-fit-finish-panel-alignment-etc.883/ https://www.civicx.com/threads/any-issues-so-far-fit-finish-... https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/misaligned-rear-bumper.523509/ https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/misaligned-rear-bumper.5...

by nvarsj 9y ago

NickM 9y ago

Well of course you're going to see people post about issues they're having if you look on forums. Nobody goes out of their way to look on forums and make posts sharing their frustration over the lack of problems they have with their car.

nvarsj 9y ago
I've been on Honda and Toyota forums in the past, and there was nothing like "my car panels are misaligned fresh out of the factory".
- NickM 9y ago
  Come on, I'm trying to be scientific about this and you're just going to swing in with a rude, ad hominem argument about "Tesla fanboys"? Claiming that Tesla having bad QC is "common knowledge" doesn't somehow insulate you and your friends from stuff like confirmation bias. And to address your other point, if you search the web for panel alignment issues on Honda or Toyota cars there seem to be plenty of those out there as well.
  - nvarsj 9y ago
    Fair enough! My main point was it's not clear that engineers at Tesla are better than those elsewhere. Even if all car companies are terrible. The other biases are my own, and are purely anecdotal based on my own experience and what others tell me. I'll leave it to other people with more time to do a scientific comparison.

sowbug 9y ago

I did what you asked. I stopped after a few minutes. http://www.odyclub.com/forums/54-2011-2017-odyssey/197033-body-panel-alignment-what-normal.html#/topics/197033 http://www.odyclub.com/forums/54-2011-2017-odyssey/197033-bo... https://www.civicx.com/threads/any-issues-so-far-fit-finish-panel-alignment-etc.883/ https://www.civicx.com/threads/any-issues-so-far-fit-finish-... https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/misaligned-rear-bumper.523509/ https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/misaligned-rear-bumper.5...