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My manager allows the devs to come in whenever — we roll in from 9 to 11 and stay til the day’s work is done. Everyone comes in absolutely ready to get shit don

My manager allows the devs to come in whenever — we roll in from 9 to 11 and stay til the day’s work is done. Everyone comes in absolutely ready to get shit done.

Kudos 8y ago
I run my team's standup at 11 for the same reason. Some folks with stricter routines will still start at 9, others (including myself) start closer to 11.
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- dasmoth 8y ago
  The downside of this is that the 9am-ers don’t get a solid stretch of focus in the morning. Have you considered an asynchronous status-reporting thing instead?
  - ubermonkey 8y ago
    Isn't part of the point of a proper standup to allow for synchronous interaction?
  - conradfr 8y ago
    It's a called Jira, Redmine, etc. The standup meeting is just a duplicate for ... reasons.
  - jacquesm 8y ago
    If you stick to that line of reasoning you might come to the conclusion that religious adherence to protocol is counterproductive. Don't let the agile coaches hear you!
- xab9 8y ago
  By definition I gotta work 8hrs, we have one hour off for lunch, so technically if I started at 11am I would be around til 8pm :(
  - systemtest 8y ago
    With a 30 minute commute, you are home at 20:30 and can stay up till 02:00. Same hours of freedom, just on a different time.
    - xab9 8y ago
      If you want to spend time with family that sounds a bit harsh, plus 30 minute commute in a big city is way too optimistic, but of course you're right that free time will not evaporate magically.
  - tcoff91 8y ago
    Are you sure you actually have to work 8 hrs? I thought I had to work 8 hours, but then I had a problem with my neck/shoulder that caused me to have to do an hour+ of physical therapy exercises at home each morning, and i started coming in to the office later in the morning like around 10 am. I found that I could still get my work done and do well. I worked 10-5 all last year while taking hour+ lunches and still got promoted and everyone was happy with my output.
    - dasmoth 8y ago
      You’d be surprised how many places track hours worked. (Believe it or not, I’ve seen timecards in academia...)
    - astura 8y ago
      I've never worked anywhere where I could randomly decide if "full time" was 40 hours a week or 30 hours a week.
      - brixon 8y ago
        Are you hourly or salary? https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/hourly-vs-salary/ https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/hourly-vs-salary/
        8y ago
leeoniya 8y ago
same here for flexible start times, except CEO still wants to see you punched in for 8 hrs, so come late stay late. our core product is not software but mfg'd goods, so likely a carry-over from that mentality.

My manager allows the devs to come in whenever — we roll in from 9 to 11 and stay til the day’s work is done. Everyone comes in absolutely ready to get shit done.

Kudos 8y ago

I run my team's standup at 11 for the same reason. Some folks with stricter routines will still start at 9, others (including myself) start closer to 11.

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dasmoth 8y ago
The downside of this is that the 9am-ers don’t get a solid stretch of focus in the morning. Have you considered an asynchronous status-reporting thing instead?
- ubermonkey 8y ago
  Isn't part of the point of a proper standup to allow for synchronous interaction?
- conradfr 8y ago
  It's a called Jira, Redmine, etc. The standup meeting is just a duplicate for ... reasons.
- jacquesm 8y ago
  If you stick to that line of reasoning you might come to the conclusion that religious adherence to protocol is counterproductive. Don't let the agile coaches hear you!
xab9 8y ago
By definition I gotta work 8hrs, we have one hour off for lunch, so technically if I started at 11am I would be around til 8pm :(
- systemtest 8y ago
  With a 30 minute commute, you are home at 20:30 and can stay up till 02:00. Same hours of freedom, just on a different time.
  - xab9 8y ago
    If you want to spend time with family that sounds a bit harsh, plus 30 minute commute in a big city is way too optimistic, but of course you're right that free time will not evaporate magically.
- tcoff91 8y ago
  Are you sure you actually have to work 8 hrs? I thought I had to work 8 hours, but then I had a problem with my neck/shoulder that caused me to have to do an hour+ of physical therapy exercises at home each morning, and i started coming in to the office later in the morning like around 10 am. I found that I could still get my work done and do well. I worked 10-5 all last year while taking hour+ lunches and still got promoted and everyone was happy with my output.
  - dasmoth 8y ago
    You’d be surprised how many places track hours worked. (Believe it or not, I’ve seen timecards in academia...)
  - astura 8y ago
    I've never worked anywhere where I could randomly decide if "full time" was 40 hours a week or 30 hours a week.
    - brixon 8y ago
      Are you hourly or salary? https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/hourly-vs-salary/ https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/hourly-vs-salary/
      - 8y ago

leeoniya 8y ago

same here for flexible start times, except CEO still wants to see you punched in for 8 hrs, so come late stay late. our core product is not software but mfg'd goods, so likely a carry-over from that mentality.