We may disagree on these things. Reasonable people disagree about things. But it seems we share a desire for substantive discussion. Take a look at my original

We may disagree on these things. Reasonable people disagree about things. But it seems we share a desire for substantive discussion. Take a look at my original comment which says that it's time to start talking. Currently it's at -2. Sound public policy-making is preconditioned on people of diverse opinions talking through issues. Nobody gets what they want, but everybody gets something. We reach some sort of local maxima. If the mob rule that currently plagues the internet has their way, this is going to permanently disappear. That's fucked. I remain convinced that people of differing opinions can accomplish great things -- but not in an environment like this. Far too many people are eager to identify the good guys and bad guys (and reward and punish them appropriately) and far too few people are eager to actually listen to one another.