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It's happening all over Germany. They are getting the apartments paid by the state, so high rents are being paid for them. 1-2 million is a huge number of peopl

by JanSt 8y ago

It's happening all over Germany. They are getting the apartments paid by the state, so high rents are being paid for them. 1-2 million is a huge number of people if you're lacking living space. Where to put them?

rjtavares 8y ago
It's happening all over Europe. We have very low influx of refugees/poor immigrants in Portugal, but rents in Lisbon/Porto are skyrocketing.
- Malarkey73 8y ago
  ditto the UK. Took virtually no refugees but rents still increasing ... hmmm something wrong with this theory? Seriously though in the UK we have had immigration over the last 20 years and that must have led to higher demand and prices. Best estimates are about 20% in 20 years in England. https://fullfact.org/immigration/have-house-prices-risen-because-immigrants/ https://fullfact.org/immigration/have-house-prices-risen-bec... BUT English house prices have risen by 320% on average over this period. Other factors are - getting married later, more single people, more divorced couples, and financialisation of housing. Probably a similar story in Berlin.
  - ccozan 8y ago
    Munich is very simptomatic of this "singles" issues. More than half of the people there are singles, thus the housing need is quite high. However, since the cheap money from the banks, more people are orienting to buy than rent, which is quite different from the past.
maephisto 8y ago
Talking strictly about Berlin, most of the EU migrants coming in here fall in two categories: - highly skilled workers (IT, Finance, Sales, Marketing) that earn much more than average german folk, and compete for housing with upper class berliners - unskilled workers (constructions) that live usually in temp housing and don't attempt to rent a flat for themselves. As for the refugees, most of them still live in camps distributed across Germany and if they get a flat subsidised by the state it will be in some low demand neighbourhood.

by JanSt 8y ago

rjtavares 8y ago

It's happening all over Europe. We have very low influx of refugees/poor immigrants in Portugal, but rents in Lisbon/Porto are skyrocketing.

Malarkey73 8y ago
ditto the UK. Took virtually no refugees but rents still increasing ... hmmm something wrong with this theory? Seriously though in the UK we have had immigration over the last 20 years and that must have led to higher demand and prices. Best estimates are about 20% in 20 years in England. https://fullfact.org/immigration/have-house-prices-risen-because-immigrants/ https://fullfact.org/immigration/have-house-prices-risen-bec... BUT English house prices have risen by 320% on average over this period. Other factors are - getting married later, more single people, more divorced couples, and financialisation of housing. Probably a similar story in Berlin.
- ccozan 8y ago
  Munich is very simptomatic of this "singles" issues. More than half of the people there are singles, thus the housing need is quite high. However, since the cheap money from the banks, more people are orienting to buy than rent, which is quite different from the past.

maephisto 8y ago

Talking strictly about Berlin, most of the EU migrants coming in here fall in two categories: - highly skilled workers (IT, Finance, Sales, Marketing) that earn much more than average german folk, and compete for housing with upper class berliners - unskilled workers (constructions) that live usually in temp housing and don't attempt to rent a flat for themselves. As for the refugees, most of them still live in camps distributed across Germany and if they get a flat subsidised by the state it will be in some low demand neighbourhood.