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I use this https://justgetflux.com/ https://justgetflux.com/ everywhere and helps lot to sleep even if you get exposed to screens. I am not sure about Kindle be

I use this https://justgetflux.com/ https://justgetflux.com/ everywhere and helps lot to sleep even if you get exposed to screens. I am not sure about Kindle before sleep. It has some bright light however it is better than reading book in lamp light. Candles are good but should not be used for long as smoke starts to build up. I would like to know other views.

soziawa 8y ago
How is it better than reading a book in lamp light? You can just buy a sensible lamp for reading.
czechdeveloper 8y ago
Windows 10 now supports flux-like behavior (night light) out of box. I no longer have need to even install flux. Not sure about Apple.
- marksomnian 8y ago
  iOS supports it as well - actually there was a controversy when Apple removed f.lux from the app store and then rolled out its own similar feature if I recall correctly.
  - mikestew 8y ago
    Orthogonal to your point, but f.lux was never in the App Store because it had to use a private API to pull it off. They did offer it as an Xcode project for a while, IIRC.
- nijaru 8y ago
  I still use flux since I prefer to filter out some blue light during the day, keeping it around 5500K.
  - dogma1138 8y ago
    Not to rain on your parade but get a colorimeter and check your screen I’ve used my xrite i1 pro and the amount of blue light doesn’t actually change that much when you switch your white point temperature to warmer settings and especially when it’s as high as 5500K.
  - czechdeveloper 8y ago
    Flux helps just with one part. Relax in evening due to removal of blue light. But second part is, that in morning and during day, you really should see blue/full spectrum and intensive light. Either by going outside, or you can buy some light therapy lamp that provides you with this (when natural light is impossible). I do not think it's good idea to deprive yourself of blue light whole day.
- mateuszf 8y ago
  It's called Night Shift on OSX and it's also builtin
- mathnode 8y ago
  MacOS, Windows 10, and Gnome 3 all have a night mode now.
dogma1138 8y ago
Windows, MacOS, iOS and I believe now Android have it built in, it can help but it’s not that great if you’ll be using your screen till bed time. White point adjustment doesn’t actually reduces the amount of blue light by that much it’s really due to how LCD screens and their color filters work, some monitors a have built in function to turn on a blue light filter which can also be used in conjunction with white point adjustment e.g Flux which does help it reduce it further. Which is why I stop all screen use 45min before bed time, more would be too much of a burden for me and less wouldn’t be effective but you should experiment with what works for you. I also found that watching my OLED TV has considerably smaller effect on me than my computer screens or phone if I use them just before bed. I don’t know if this is due to the nature of the screen since it doesn’t use backlight hence less blue light or is it just due to the fact that the perceived brightness is lower due to the watching distance.
- Matt3o12_ 8y ago
  Unfortunately Apples version for flux (night shift) is not available older Macs and only available for very few displays (only the few Apple made themselves and a few of their recommended one).
  - paulsutter 8y ago
    Apple recommends displays? Ever since they discontinued their own display, I've had a dickens of a time using third party displays. My current display flickers for 30-60 seconds before becoming usable on wake, and I would love to night shift again. Where's the list?
    - veidr 8y ago
      Here is the list: 1. LG UltraFine monitors THE END Sadly, recommendation notwithstanding, I bought 2 of these 5K monitors for my iMac Pro, but they have the same funky waking problems you describe, and sometimes one doesn't even come on at all, until the machine is rebooted. T_T (Night Shift does work on them, though. But auto-brightness doesn't, so it's like a soft orange-ish screen in the middle and two BRIGHT AND FIERY ORANGE SCREENS blazing at you at night, unless you manually adjust the brightness...)
mikro2nd 8y ago
If smoke is building up from a few candles you have bigger ventilation issues to worry about and fix than light colour or intensity tweaking. CO2 buildup will certainly affect your quality of life (and sleep).
Shorel 8y ago
Some Kobo models have adaptive light, that is, blueish during the day, reddish at night.

soziawa 8y ago

How is it better than reading a book in lamp light? You can just buy a sensible lamp for reading.

czechdeveloper 8y ago

Windows 10 now supports flux-like behavior (night light) out of box. I no longer have need to even install flux. Not sure about Apple.

marksomnian 8y ago
iOS supports it as well - actually there was a controversy when Apple removed f.lux from the app store and then rolled out its own similar feature if I recall correctly.
- mikestew 8y ago
  Orthogonal to your point, but f.lux was never in the App Store because it had to use a private API to pull it off. They did offer it as an Xcode project for a while, IIRC.
nijaru 8y ago
I still use flux since I prefer to filter out some blue light during the day, keeping it around 5500K.
- dogma1138 8y ago
  Not to rain on your parade but get a colorimeter and check your screen I’ve used my xrite i1 pro and the amount of blue light doesn’t actually change that much when you switch your white point temperature to warmer settings and especially when it’s as high as 5500K.
- czechdeveloper 8y ago
  Flux helps just with one part. Relax in evening due to removal of blue light. But second part is, that in morning and during day, you really should see blue/full spectrum and intensive light. Either by going outside, or you can buy some light therapy lamp that provides you with this (when natural light is impossible). I do not think it's good idea to deprive yourself of blue light whole day.
mateuszf 8y ago
It's called Night Shift on OSX and it's also builtin
mathnode 8y ago
MacOS, Windows 10, and Gnome 3 all have a night mode now.

dogma1138 8y ago

Windows, MacOS, iOS and I believe now Android have it built in, it can help but it’s not that great if you’ll be using your screen till bed time. White point adjustment doesn’t actually reduces the amount of blue light by that much it’s really due to how LCD screens and their color filters work, some monitors a have built in function to turn on a blue light filter which can also be used in conjunction with white point adjustment e.g Flux which does help it reduce it further. Which is why I stop all screen use 45min before bed time, more would be too much of a burden for me and less wouldn’t be effective but you should experiment with what works for you. I also found that watching my OLED TV has considerably smaller effect on me than my computer screens or phone if I use them just before bed. I don’t know if this is due to the nature of the screen since it doesn’t use backlight hence less blue light or is it just due to the fact that the perceived brightness is lower due to the watching distance.

Matt3o12_ 8y ago
Unfortunately Apples version for flux (night shift) is not available older Macs and only available for very few displays (only the few Apple made themselves and a few of their recommended one).
- paulsutter 8y ago
  Apple recommends displays? Ever since they discontinued their own display, I've had a dickens of a time using third party displays. My current display flickers for 30-60 seconds before becoming usable on wake, and I would love to night shift again. Where's the list?
  - veidr 8y ago
    Here is the list: 1. LG UltraFine monitors THE END Sadly, recommendation notwithstanding, I bought 2 of these 5K monitors for my iMac Pro, but they have the same funky waking problems you describe, and sometimes one doesn't even come on at all, until the machine is rebooted. T_T (Night Shift does work on them, though. But auto-brightness doesn't, so it's like a soft orange-ish screen in the middle and two BRIGHT AND FIERY ORANGE SCREENS blazing at you at night, unless you manually adjust the brightness...)

mikro2nd 8y ago

If smoke is building up from a few candles you have bigger ventilation issues to worry about and fix than light colour or intensity tweaking. CO2 buildup will certainly affect your quality of life (and sleep).

Shorel 8y ago

Some Kobo models have adaptive light, that is, blueish during the day, reddish at night.