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Isn't that just shoddy journalism on the part of media that reported and quoted them? We shouldn't shift the blame from the media companies that reported fake i

Isn't that just shoddy journalism on the part of media that reported and quoted them? We shouldn't shift the blame from the media companies that reported fake information as fact. We are never going to get rid of fake information. We can only push for journalistic standards to ensure we aren't bringing credibility and legitimacy to a company pumping out this crap.

blackbagboys 9y ago
We can push for higher journalistic standards and also push to punish crooks who intentionally deceive the public in order to line their pockets, especially when it's at the expense of struggling populations like heavily indebted students.
TheOtherHobbes 9y ago
Identity checks are incredibly time consuming and expensive. Many authors deliberately use pseudonyms. The only practical way to avoid what you’re calling “shoddy journalism” would be to have a single international register of vetted and accredited blog authors. Is that really an outcome you want?
- admax88q 9y ago
  Or perhaps journalists could actually do some investigative reporting rather than treating blog posts as even a potential source of truth.
  - PurpleBoxDragon 9y ago
    Are people willing to pay them commensurate to the extra work they will have to put in to do this?
shaki-dora 9y ago
Sure... As soon as every project on github audits every line of code in all of their dependencies.
- sleepychu 9y ago
  I'm not sure your analogy sticks. News organisations are purporting to be sources of truth. I don't think that many Github projects are purporting to be sources of audited dependencies.
  - dredmorbius 9y ago
    Trust matters. It's a tremendous efficiency engine. One verifies as feasible, but one also punishes intentional violations of trust severely.
jmcqk6 9y ago
There are multiple people who did things wrong here. Sure, you can call out the media companies, but there is no reason to not also criticize fraudsters. There is enough blame to spread around.

blackbagboys 9y ago

We can push for higher journalistic standards and also push to punish crooks who intentionally deceive the public in order to line their pockets, especially when it's at the expense of struggling populations like heavily indebted students.

TheOtherHobbes 9y ago

Identity checks are incredibly time consuming and expensive. Many authors deliberately use pseudonyms. The only practical way to avoid what you’re calling “shoddy journalism” would be to have a single international register of vetted and accredited blog authors. Is that really an outcome you want?

admax88q 9y ago
Or perhaps journalists could actually do some investigative reporting rather than treating blog posts as even a potential source of truth.
- PurpleBoxDragon 9y ago
  Are people willing to pay them commensurate to the extra work they will have to put in to do this?

shaki-dora 9y ago

Sure... As soon as every project on github audits every line of code in all of their dependencies.

sleepychu 9y ago
I'm not sure your analogy sticks. News organisations are purporting to be sources of truth. I don't think that many Github projects are purporting to be sources of audited dependencies.
- dredmorbius 9y ago
  Trust matters. It's a tremendous efficiency engine. One verifies as feasible, but one also punishes intentional violations of trust severely.

jmcqk6 9y ago

There are multiple people who did things wrong here. Sure, you can call out the media companies, but there is no reason to not also criticize fraudsters. There is enough blame to spread around.