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I could only stand to watch about a minute of the video, but the two things which stand out the most are the cop calling the lady "Miss" even after she correcte

I could only stand to watch about a minute of the video, but the two things which stand out the most are the cop calling the lady "Miss" even after she corrected him, in an intentional display of disrespect toward her. The second big red flag is that he refused to answer her question. She asked why they were pulled over. He refused repeatedly to answer, and told her to ask the driver of the vehicle. Then he told her to check public records. These people are paid to _serve_ us, not to belittle us and make our lives hell. "SERVE" is not a mistake of vocabulary, it's an intentionally chosen word to describe the relationship which police are _required_ to maintain with the citizens of their jurisdictions. The behaviors the cop displays are literally "anti-social", in the clinical sense, and people who are "anti-social" cannot be trusted with positions of authority in our communities. Was the lady wrong to attempt to abuse her position? Sure. But the cops were wrong for the same things that cops are _ALWAYS_ wrong for. They're control freaks, they're selfish and self-centered, they diminish other people to empower themselves. The quoted obscenity in the headline is a response to the officer saying "You make take them now", is it any surprise this set her off? He's bossing her around like he's her father, but he's just some nobody making $25k/yr pretending to be something he is not, a hero. Here's the only thing that matters, the lady is an upset private citizen. Her behavior is understandable, considering the circumstances. The cop has no excuse for his behavior. Everything else is frankly window dressing.

jlg23 8y ago
> But the cops were wrong for the same things that cops are _ALWAYS_ wrong for. They're control freaks, they're selfish and self-centered, they diminish other people to empower themselves. The quoted obscenity in the headline is a response to the officer saying "You make take them now", is it any surprise this set her off? Yes, there are idiots who, when given a uniform are "hard" to deal with... But in this situation (all over, she is there basically as a taxi driver) I can only say that I would have been much more blunt with her. You say they are there to "serve us" and I actually mean that: The "us" is better served if they don't engage in pointless discussions but do their actual job instead. > He's just some nobody making $25k/yr He might be making only 25k but he is also making a difference. Do you?
- tnegoshi 8y ago
  Not sure where GP got that 25K figure from but this is a trivial lookup: https://www.policeapp.com/Entry-Level-Tenafly-NJ-Police-Officer-Jobs/313/ https://www.policeapp.com/Entry-Level-Tenafly-NJ-Police-Offi... > Department: Tenafly Police Department > Type: Entry Level > Job Title: Entry Level Police Officer > Salary: $44,500-$125,000 > Location: Tenafly, NJ
  - originalsimba 8y ago
    my info on cop salaries is heresay and like 20 years old, sorry I did not adjust for inflation. The point I was making is that police are underpaid, which accurately represents the investment the public is willing to make toward their service. It's shows how much value the public thinks there is in the work that police do. Which means people don't think cops are serving them properly, if that wasn't obvious. As full time salaries go they are on the lower end of the scale. The actual number is sort of irrelevant.
- originalsimba 8y ago
  > He might be making only 25k but he is also making a difference. Do you? Everyone makes a difference. Is the difference positive or negative? His impact on the world is negative. Since you asked, mine is positive. I volunteer to charities and I provide business class high tech services at fractions of the prices of the competition because they're ripping small businesses off and I am attacking them directly. I would be willing to bet my contributions to the world are more positive and far reaching than any cop anywhere in the world, no matter how great they are (and most are not), in fact. So I feel completely justified and within my rights to judge his behavior in the execution of his duties as a public servant.
  - jlg23 8y ago
    > I volunteer to charities and I provide business class high tech services at fractions of the prices of the competition because they're ripping small businesses off and I am attacking them directly. I would be willing to bet my contributions to the world are more positive and far reaching than any cop anywhere in the world, no matter how great they are (and most are not), in fact. I too work for charities, but that does not entitle me to look down on people who make less than I do (monetarily). You of course have the right to judge behaviour as you see fit. But I also have that right and I exercise it by openly stating that I think your comment is demeaning.

jlg23 8y ago

> But the cops were wrong for the same things that cops are _ALWAYS_ wrong for. They're control freaks, they're selfish and self-centered, they diminish other people to empower themselves. The quoted obscenity in the headline is a response to the officer saying "You make take them now", is it any surprise this set her off? Yes, there are idiots who, when given a uniform are "hard" to deal with... But in this situation (all over, she is there basically as a taxi driver) I can only say that I would have been much more blunt with her. You say they are there to "serve us" and I actually mean that: The "us" is better served if they don't engage in pointless discussions but do their actual job instead. > He's just some nobody making $25k/yr He might be making only 25k but he is also making a difference. Do you?

tnegoshi 8y ago
Not sure where GP got that 25K figure from but this is a trivial lookup: https://www.policeapp.com/Entry-Level-Tenafly-NJ-Police-Officer-Jobs/313/ https://www.policeapp.com/Entry-Level-Tenafly-NJ-Police-Offi... > Department: Tenafly Police Department > Type: Entry Level > Job Title: Entry Level Police Officer > Salary: $44,500-$125,000 > Location: Tenafly, NJ
- originalsimba 8y ago
  my info on cop salaries is heresay and like 20 years old, sorry I did not adjust for inflation. The point I was making is that police are underpaid, which accurately represents the investment the public is willing to make toward their service. It's shows how much value the public thinks there is in the work that police do. Which means people don't think cops are serving them properly, if that wasn't obvious. As full time salaries go they are on the lower end of the scale. The actual number is sort of irrelevant.
originalsimba 8y ago
> He might be making only 25k but he is also making a difference. Do you? Everyone makes a difference. Is the difference positive or negative? His impact on the world is negative. Since you asked, mine is positive. I volunteer to charities and I provide business class high tech services at fractions of the prices of the competition because they're ripping small businesses off and I am attacking them directly. I would be willing to bet my contributions to the world are more positive and far reaching than any cop anywhere in the world, no matter how great they are (and most are not), in fact. So I feel completely justified and within my rights to judge his behavior in the execution of his duties as a public servant.
- jlg23 8y ago
  > I volunteer to charities and I provide business class high tech services at fractions of the prices of the competition because they're ripping small businesses off and I am attacking them directly. I would be willing to bet my contributions to the world are more positive and far reaching than any cop anywhere in the world, no matter how great they are (and most are not), in fact. I too work for charities, but that does not entitle me to look down on people who make less than I do (monetarily). You of course have the right to judge behaviour as you see fit. But I also have that right and I exercise it by openly stating that I think your comment is demeaning.