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Paywall removed: https://outline.com/eVph3y https://outline.com/eVph3y As a lactard, I can attest—I tried this and didn’t have any indigestion problems. Maybe lactose intolerance is a hoax.

sergers 8y ago
I think alot of it is generalized without enough scientific analysis/limited by current technology. "Lactose intolerance" could be many different reactions that could be not lactose specifically with many individuals. Could be a byproduct commonly found with lactose(and maybe the a2 milk process removes that) (similar to how recent, debated, studies for gluten intolerance may not be specifically gluten for many people, could be a similar by product/chemical/reaction to something commonly produced with gluten).
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > "Lactose intolerance" could be many different reactions It's not, it's pretty well understood. OTOH, lots of allergies to milk proteins are misidentified by sufferers of them as lactose intolerance, as they have vaguely similar superficial symptoms and are both negated by avoiding milk.
  - lostlogin 8y ago
    Exactly. But this is poorly understood by the general population and who is going to understand or know if a particular milk protein is present?
    - Moru 8y ago
      It's going to be heavily advertised if it hasn't started already, and then everyone will be lactose intollerant. Because someone that feels better using a more expensive product will keep buying the more expensive product as long as they feel better from it.
maxerickson 8y ago
You could get some refined lactose and mix it in water to see. Use lots and you'll for sure know if you are lactase deficient.
abrookewood 8y ago
It's not a hoax at all. The ability to digest lactose is due to a mutation in humans that began in Europe thousands of years ago. It's about as far from a hoax as you can get: You either produce the lactase enzyme (required to break down lactose) or you don't. 1. https://www.nature.com/news/archaeology-the-milk-revolution-1.13471 https://www.nature.com/news/archaeology-the-milk-revolution-... 2. https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance#sourcesforpage https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance#source...
Moto7451 8y ago
As another linked article attests, this milk doesn’t do anything in regards to lactose. It instead is a milk that uses a less common (in the Western World) A2 type of Casein Protein instead of A1 type. There are various health claims about A2 and A1 that have nothing to do with lactose intolerance. Lactose is a sugar in milk, and casein the main protein component.
- DEFCON28 8y ago
  Exactly. So if people claim that they are "lactose intolerant" and can drink A2 with no bad effect, they are not making much sense.
  - jeffdavis 8y ago
    It makes sense: they assumed they were lactose intolerant because they had digestive problems with milk; but then found out the problem is something else. That "something else" may be the A1 protein but they don't want to make assumptions too quickly this time.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> Maybe lactose intolerance is a hoax. It's clearly not, and the mechanism is well understood; however, lots of people who think they are lactose intolerant are mis-(and usually self-)diagnosed, and really have allergies to one or more proteins found in milk (and this has also been widely known for a long time), which is completely different than lactose intolerance.
glastra 8y ago
Or maybe it's not a hoax and you are misdiagnosed. You might have cow milk protein allergy/intolerance, which is an allergic reaction that happens only in the digestive tract. Try eating some dried/cured meat that has lactose added as a conservative. No issues? Not lactose intolerant. Try taking some medicine that has lactose added as a binding agent. No issues? Not lactose intolerant. Try eating any cured cheese such as Cheddar or Edam (0.0 g lactose, but check the carbs/sugars label to be sure). Issues? Not lactose intolerant. Try drinking normal milk and then the same thing with exogenous lactase (e.g. Lactaid). Issues without lactase, but no issues with it? Lactose intolerant. Issues with both or no issues with any? Not lactose intolerant. It's fairly easy to self-diagnose as long as you know how the intolerance works (an enzyme is missing in your digestive tract) and the lactose content of things.

Paywall removed: https://outline.com/eVph3y https://outline.com/eVph3y As a lactard, I can attest—I tried this and didn’t have any indigestion problems. Maybe lactose intolerance is a hoax.

sergers 8y ago

I think alot of it is generalized without enough scientific analysis/limited by current technology. "Lactose intolerance" could be many different reactions that could be not lactose specifically with many individuals. Could be a byproduct commonly found with lactose(and maybe the a2 milk process removes that) (similar to how recent, debated, studies for gluten intolerance may not be specifically gluten for many people, could be a similar by product/chemical/reaction to something commonly produced with gluten).

dragonwriter 8y ago
> "Lactose intolerance" could be many different reactions It's not, it's pretty well understood. OTOH, lots of allergies to milk proteins are misidentified by sufferers of them as lactose intolerance, as they have vaguely similar superficial symptoms and are both negated by avoiding milk.
- lostlogin 8y ago
  Exactly. But this is poorly understood by the general population and who is going to understand or know if a particular milk protein is present?
  - Moru 8y ago
    It's going to be heavily advertised if it hasn't started already, and then everyone will be lactose intollerant. Because someone that feels better using a more expensive product will keep buying the more expensive product as long as they feel better from it.

maxerickson 8y ago

You could get some refined lactose and mix it in water to see. Use lots and you'll for sure know if you are lactase deficient.

abrookewood 8y ago

It's not a hoax at all. The ability to digest lactose is due to a mutation in humans that began in Europe thousands of years ago. It's about as far from a hoax as you can get: You either produce the lactase enzyme (required to break down lactose) or you don't. 1. https://www.nature.com/news/archaeology-the-milk-revolution-1.13471 https://www.nature.com/news/archaeology-the-milk-revolution-... 2. https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance#sourcesforpage https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance#source...

Moto7451 8y ago

As another linked article attests, this milk doesn’t do anything in regards to lactose. It instead is a milk that uses a less common (in the Western World) A2 type of Casein Protein instead of A1 type. There are various health claims about A2 and A1 that have nothing to do with lactose intolerance. Lactose is a sugar in milk, and casein the main protein component.

DEFCON28 8y ago
Exactly. So if people claim that they are "lactose intolerant" and can drink A2 with no bad effect, they are not making much sense.
- jeffdavis 8y ago
  It makes sense: they assumed they were lactose intolerant because they had digestive problems with milk; but then found out the problem is something else. That "something else" may be the A1 protein but they don't want to make assumptions too quickly this time.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> Maybe lactose intolerance is a hoax. It's clearly not, and the mechanism is well understood; however, lots of people who think they are lactose intolerant are mis-(and usually self-)diagnosed, and really have allergies to one or more proteins found in milk (and this has also been widely known for a long time), which is completely different than lactose intolerance.

glastra 8y ago

Or maybe it's not a hoax and you are misdiagnosed. You might have cow milk protein allergy/intolerance, which is an allergic reaction that happens only in the digestive tract. Try eating some dried/cured meat that has lactose added as a conservative. No issues? Not lactose intolerant. Try taking some medicine that has lactose added as a binding agent. No issues? Not lactose intolerant. Try eating any cured cheese such as Cheddar or Edam (0.0 g lactose, but check the carbs/sugars label to be sure). Issues? Not lactose intolerant. Try drinking normal milk and then the same thing with exogenous lactase (e.g. Lactaid). Issues without lactase, but no issues with it? Lactose intolerant. Issues with both or no issues with any? Not lactose intolerant. It's fairly easy to self-diagnose as long as you know how the intolerance works (an enzyme is missing in your digestive tract) and the lactose content of things.