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Police just need to start issuing tickets. Seems like a solid and easy revenue stream. Both riding on the sidewalk and riding without a helmet is illegal. Ha

Police just need to start issuing tickets. Seems like a solid and easy revenue stream. Both riding on the sidewalk and riding without a helmet is illegal. Haven't seen any rider wearing one. CA Law: "An operator of a motorized scooter must be at least 16 years old, possess a valid drivers license or instruction permit, and wear a helmet. A motorized scooter may be operated on a bicycle path, trail or bikeway, but not on a sidewalk. On the roadway, it must be operated in the bicycle lane, if there is one. On roads without bicycle lanes, motorized scooters may operate where the speed limit is 25 mph or less, and shall be ridden as close to the right hand curb as possible, except to pass or turn left."

theptip 8y ago
This is 100% the right answer. If someone rents a car and then parks it on the sidewalk, the renter (not the rental company) gets the ticket. Why should scooters be different? If scooters start getting tickets for being parked in stupid places, then those tickets will get passed on to the riders, and they will stop it. If riders get tickets for riding on the sidewalk, they will stop it. Etc. The existing laws are sufficient to cover this situation, they just need to be enforced.
- randyrand 8y ago
  You should give them a shot.
zaroth 8y ago
What do you do when you get to a 35mph zone with no bike lane?
- seanp2k2 8y ago
  For bicycles in California, this is the law: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=21202 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.... CODE TEXT VEHICLE CODE - VEH DIVISION 11. RULES OF THE ROAD [21000 - 23336] ( Division 11 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. ) CHAPTER 1. Obedience to and Effect of Traffic Laws [21000 - 21296] ( Chapter 1 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. ) ARTICLE 4. Operation of Bicycles [21200 - 21213] ( Article 4 added by Stats. 1963, Ch. 479. ) 21202. (a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at that time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations: (1) When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction. (2) When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway. (3) When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes) that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge, subject to the provisions of Section 21656. For purposes of this section, a “substandard width lane” is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane. (4) When approaching a place where a right turn is authorized. (b) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway of a highway, which highway carries traffic in one direction only and has two or more marked traffic lanes, may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of that roadway as practicable. (Amended by Stats. 1996, Ch. 674, Sec. 4. Effective January 1, 1997.) For motorized scooters, the only thing I could find is in the vehicle code: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/scooters https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/scooters A motorized scooter is a two-wheeled device that has handlebars, a floorboard designed to be stood upon when riding, and is powered by a motor. The Vehicle Code (VC) does not require registration, license plates to be displayed or the scooter to be insured. Local authorities can regulate the registration for these scooters pursuant to VC §21225. Even though insurance is not required, owners of these scooters should contact their insurance company to determine if coverage is available. An operator of a motorized scooter must be at least 16 years old, possess a valid drivers license or instruction permit, and wear a helmet. A motorized scooter may be operated on a bicycle path, trail or bikeway, but not on a sidewalk. On the roadway, it must be operated in the bicycle lane, if there is one. On roads without bicycle lanes, motorized scooters may operate where the speed limit is 25 mph or less, and shall be ridden as close to the right hand curb as possible, except to pass or turn left. VC § 21226 (D) prohibits alteration of motorized scooters.
closeparen 8y ago
"Motorized scooter" in California law is referring to one of these: http://www.vespa.com/us_EN/vespa-models/primavera.html# http://www.vespa.com/us_EN/vespa-models/primavera.html#
vkou 8y ago
Do you wear a helmet when driving? Or walking? Why don't we have similar helmet laws for drivers and pedestrians?

theptip 8y ago

This is 100% the right answer. If someone rents a car and then parks it on the sidewalk, the renter (not the rental company) gets the ticket. Why should scooters be different? If scooters start getting tickets for being parked in stupid places, then those tickets will get passed on to the riders, and they will stop it. If riders get tickets for riding on the sidewalk, they will stop it. Etc. The existing laws are sufficient to cover this situation, they just need to be enforced.

randyrand 8y ago
You should give them a shot.

zaroth 8y ago

What do you do when you get to a 35mph zone with no bike lane?

seanp2k2 8y ago
For bicycles in California, this is the law: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=21202 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.... CODE TEXT VEHICLE CODE - VEH DIVISION 11. RULES OF THE ROAD [21000 - 23336] ( Division 11 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. ) CHAPTER 1. Obedience to and Effect of Traffic Laws [21000 - 21296] ( Chapter 1 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. ) ARTICLE 4. Operation of Bicycles [21200 - 21213] ( Article 4 added by Stats. 1963, Ch. 479. ) 21202. (a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at that time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations: (1) When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction. (2) When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway. (3) When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes) that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge, subject to the provisions of Section 21656. For purposes of this section, a “substandard width lane” is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane. (4) When approaching a place where a right turn is authorized. (b) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway of a highway, which highway carries traffic in one direction only and has two or more marked traffic lanes, may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of that roadway as practicable. (Amended by Stats. 1996, Ch. 674, Sec. 4. Effective January 1, 1997.) For motorized scooters, the only thing I could find is in the vehicle code: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/scooters https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/scooters A motorized scooter is a two-wheeled device that has handlebars, a floorboard designed to be stood upon when riding, and is powered by a motor. The Vehicle Code (VC) does not require registration, license plates to be displayed or the scooter to be insured. Local authorities can regulate the registration for these scooters pursuant to VC §21225. Even though insurance is not required, owners of these scooters should contact their insurance company to determine if coverage is available. An operator of a motorized scooter must be at least 16 years old, possess a valid drivers license or instruction permit, and wear a helmet. A motorized scooter may be operated on a bicycle path, trail or bikeway, but not on a sidewalk. On the roadway, it must be operated in the bicycle lane, if there is one. On roads without bicycle lanes, motorized scooters may operate where the speed limit is 25 mph or less, and shall be ridden as close to the right hand curb as possible, except to pass or turn left. VC § 21226 (D) prohibits alteration of motorized scooters.

closeparen 8y ago

"Motorized scooter" in California law is referring to one of these: http://www.vespa.com/us_EN/vespa-models/primavera.html# http://www.vespa.com/us_EN/vespa-models/primavera.html#

vkou 8y ago

Do you wear a helmet when driving? Or walking? Why don't we have similar helmet laws for drivers and pedestrians?