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Counterargument: for a long time Ive had Jobs to push back on Design excesses. Now there's nobody that has the same kind of design sense at the top to push the
by entee 8y ago
Counterargument: for a long time Ive had Jobs to push back on Design excesses. Now there's nobody that has the same kind of design sense at the top to push the product in practical directions.
It's like Lennon and McCartney, they wrote better songs when they were together than apart (I'd argue).
- madeofpalk 8y agoI actually don't think that's a counterargument at all. If someone like Ive is able to run unchecked and produce the failure that is the MBP keyboard, then that's a problem outside of Ive.
- mortenjorck 8y agoBased on the folklore, I don't think it's a stretch to imagine Jobs holding up an iPhone USB cable at a meeting and yelling "why the hell can't I plug this into my MacBook Pro?" I can't imagine Cook doing the same.
- entee 8y agoSure, in a limited sense yeah. I think the Parent's view is that younger designers may be a little more grounded due to not having been worshiped as a god for years. Or just may have different/fresh ideas that are more responsive to current users. In other words if Ive is running amok, yeah maybe he should be replaced/challenged, and that's a failure of leadership, but it's still Ive who's doing the damage. In my view every Apple product launch/update since Job's death has increasingly tended to make more choices that are pretty from a design perspective but clueless from a utility perspective. Eventually we'll just have some sort of glass slab that soothingly glows but doesn't actually do anything, oh wait... touchbar.
- whywhywhywhy 8y agoThe real question here is would he consider this outcome a failure? What were the design goals of that MBP? Looking at it with an industrial designer eye I feel "symmetry" and "thinness" were higher up the list of requirements than "a good keyboard".