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ASCII with the English charset is easier than charset juggling and Unicode? Less subconscious negative feeling from Latin-alphabet-users? It's a linguistic ver
by kolpa 8y ago
ASCII with the English charset is easier than charset juggling and Unicode?
Less subconscious negative feeling from Latin-alphabet-users? It's a linguistic version of website moving to "flat" UI design.
- emodendroket 8y agoI mean, this is a solved problem
- zokier 8y agoThe new Kazakh alphabet is not subset of ASCII, so no benefit there. The "ugly" apostrophe version would have been though, but that got scrapped.
- klez 8y agoASCII with the English charset doesn't cover any Latin script based language I know of (granted, a limited set) other than English. For example it doesn't cover Italian, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian, Czech, Vietnamese, Danish, Norwegian, Icelandic, Irish, Occitan, Croatian, etc...
- FRex 8y agoIt also doesn't cover Polish. It does cover Malay though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_alphabet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_alphabet
- spacenick88 8y agoIt almost covers German except for ä, ö, ü and ß all of which have a very easy transliteration ae, oe, ue and ss. Similarly it almost covers Italian, French (accents can be dropped), Spanish and a couple more
- klez 8y agoThat you can do transliterations doesn't make it a good idea. > French (accents can be dropped) What? No! See for example https://french.stackexchange.com/a/24410 https://french.stackexchange.com/a/24410
- bonzini 8y agoSurely it is incorrect to drop them, but the result is still intelligible. Same for the "hacek" and accent (carka) in Czech for example. In Italian, however, accents are only on the last letter of a word so they are usually replaced with apostrophes if your keyboard lacks them (in fact even on an Italian keyboard È is usually typed as E'; most word processors autocorrect it).
- emodendroket 8y agoYes, but it is equally true that it is intelligible if you only have letters in one case and no punctuation. Nevertheless, most of us would not consider this acceptable.
- kolpa 8y agoEnglish has non-homophobic homonyms too. We just carry on regardless.
- klez 8y agoI guess you meant homophonic. Anyway, for example "a" and "à" are homophones. As are "la" and "là". A nice one is "chasse"/"châsse". Both are pronounced \ʃas\ but the first one means "hunt", the latter one means "reliquary".
- emodendroket 8y agoThere's no real justification for "C," sinse every instanse of it kan be replased with S or K. Nevertheless, I don't think you would konsent to use a kharakter set that didn't inklude it.
- ajuc 8y agoYou missed on the change of using a: for ä
- bloak 8y agoASCII isn't really enough for (British) English. In handwritten English the following characters are very common: £ ‘ ’ “ ” · –/—. (You see that interpunct? That's the correct way to do a decimal point. Very common in handwriting; very rare in typing; often replaced with a full stop even in good typography.) Then there are some frequently used foreign words: façade, outré, Noël. I'll mention these, though they're rather old-fashioned and I would guess nearly everyone would use the ASCII equivalent even in handwriting: naïve, encyclopædia, œuvre. I could also mention the grave accent used in some poetry: learnèd. Dutch, like English, is almost ASCII, though there are things like "één".