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Very few places on the planet are as temperate and offer so many options to escape into nature as the Bay Area. I agree that something has to change, but trying

Very few places on the planet are as temperate and offer so many options to escape into nature as the Bay Area. I agree that something has to change, but trying to convince people that the only answer is to move away is a non-starter for the majority of the population, especially those who want to live here.

st26 9y ago
The weather is nice, but nature is not really all that close. Sure, there's worse places. But growing up there I thought we had it good on the nature front, while really it was just the koolaid.
- usaar333 9y ago
  I guess it matters what you mean by close. I can get to a redwood Forest in a 25 minute drive from SF, which I consider pretty good for a large urban area.. I agree other, smaller cities have much closer nature.
hesdeadjim 9y ago
If they tried Colorado they’d change their mind quick. I always thought I’d end up in the valley, but after ten years here and seeing how bad the Bay Area has gotten, there isn’t enough money to convince me to make the switch.
- jarjoura 9y ago
  True, Colorado has some gorgeous backdrops, but then again, you'd also have to be into 1/2 a year of intense snowy winters.
  - hesdeadjim 9y ago
    Actually we really don't get that much snow. In Boulder January and February are cold and snow can stick around for a week or two. But no joke, it can be sunny and 60 a day after a snowstorm. Now go up into the mountains instead of the foothills, yea, you're gonna get that winter you're talking about.
- d1zzy 9y ago
  It's highly subjective, I personally cannot stand temperatures below 15C or so, it's "painful" (yes, I'm a wuss). I haven't lived in Colorado but I did live in Europe and recently looked at the climate/temperature tables of Boulder to compare to Bay Area. It rather seems to me that it has weather similar to where I lived in Europe (hot summers, cold winters) with a large variation of daytime/nighttime temperature and a bit drier climate (in Boulder at least) because of the nearby mountains. All in all, lots of days in Boulder where temperature average would be <15C so not that good.
  - noir_lord 9y ago
    I don't like anything over 15C, at 20C I'm uncomfortable, at 25C I'm miserable and at 30C I just want to crawl into a (cool) dark hole and die. Funny how different people are.
irrational 9y ago
I don't know. I've lived all over the country from the east to the west from the north to the south and the midwest and I've found that every area has things to recommend it.

st26 9y ago

The weather is nice, but nature is not really all that close. Sure, there's worse places. But growing up there I thought we had it good on the nature front, while really it was just the koolaid.

usaar333 9y ago
I guess it matters what you mean by close. I can get to a redwood Forest in a 25 minute drive from SF, which I consider pretty good for a large urban area.. I agree other, smaller cities have much closer nature.

hesdeadjim 9y ago

If they tried Colorado they’d change their mind quick. I always thought I’d end up in the valley, but after ten years here and seeing how bad the Bay Area has gotten, there isn’t enough money to convince me to make the switch.

jarjoura 9y ago
True, Colorado has some gorgeous backdrops, but then again, you'd also have to be into 1/2 a year of intense snowy winters.
- hesdeadjim 9y ago
  Actually we really don't get that much snow. In Boulder January and February are cold and snow can stick around for a week or two. But no joke, it can be sunny and 60 a day after a snowstorm. Now go up into the mountains instead of the foothills, yea, you're gonna get that winter you're talking about.
d1zzy 9y ago
It's highly subjective, I personally cannot stand temperatures below 15C or so, it's "painful" (yes, I'm a wuss). I haven't lived in Colorado but I did live in Europe and recently looked at the climate/temperature tables of Boulder to compare to Bay Area. It rather seems to me that it has weather similar to where I lived in Europe (hot summers, cold winters) with a large variation of daytime/nighttime temperature and a bit drier climate (in Boulder at least) because of the nearby mountains. All in all, lots of days in Boulder where temperature average would be <15C so not that good.
- noir_lord 9y ago
  I don't like anything over 15C, at 20C I'm uncomfortable, at 25C I'm miserable and at 30C I just want to crawl into a (cool) dark hole and die. Funny how different people are.

irrational 9y ago

I don't know. I've lived all over the country from the east to the west from the north to the south and the midwest and I've found that every area has things to recommend it.