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Yes, but I would put housing density above mass transit in efficacy.

by blang 8y ago

RandallBrown 8y ago
I think many of the people making these huge commutes don't want dense housing, they want a big house with a yard and a garage.
- sampo 8y ago
  Might feel a bit counterintuitive, but allowing dense cores, at least all the people desiring urban, walkable, lifestyle would get to live near the core. And thus these people would not compete for the suburban homes so the suburban homes might stay a bit cheaper. The denser the core, the more there is room for suburbia nearer the core, too.
- bluGill 8y ago
  Everybody wants the best of all worlds. I want 100 acres so that I can have fresh milk from my cows every morning (never mind that I wouldn't want to spend the time required to care cows every day). I want my kids to go to school next door. I want it on the ocean for swimming and fishing. I want my job to be 3 blocks away. I want to look out all my windows and now see any signs of other humans. I want ... (you should be able to add at least 20 mutually exclusive desires to this list that are all thing you would actually want in a dream house/location). Now that we have established you can't have it all, what compromise are you willing to live with? I know people who love their horses enough that they give up everything else to get the room for their horses. I know people who like night life enough that they give up horses so they can get that. When thinking about compromise, remember that adding density can change the personal calculation. Right now density is expensive - my horse friends pay less for their housing - including the barn - than a much smaller living space in New York would cost. (care for the horses costs more than the night life in NYC) If you can bring the cost of density down it is fair to wonder who would give up the horse lifestyle for the things you could get with density.
rtkwe 8y ago
Without a good public transportation (either through trains/busses or having the buildings close enough to jobs to walk bike [and counting on enough people to do that]) you're just jamming more people into an already congested system.

Yes, but I would put housing density above mass transit in efficacy.

by blang 8y ago

Yes, but I would put housing density above mass transit in efficacy.

I think many of the people making these huge commutes don't want dense housing, they want a big house with a yard and a garage.

sampo 8y ago
Might feel a bit counterintuitive, but allowing dense cores, at least all the people desiring urban, walkable, lifestyle would get to live near the core. And thus these people would not compete for the suburban homes so the suburban homes might stay a bit cheaper. The denser the core, the more there is room for suburbia nearer the core, too.
bluGill 8y ago
Everybody wants the best of all worlds. I want 100 acres so that I can have fresh milk from my cows every morning (never mind that I wouldn't want to spend the time required to care cows every day). I want my kids to go to school next door. I want it on the ocean for swimming and fishing. I want my job to be 3 blocks away. I want to look out all my windows and now see any signs of other humans. I want ... (you should be able to add at least 20 mutually exclusive desires to this list that are all thing you would actually want in a dream house/location). Now that we have established you can't have it all, what compromise are you willing to live with? I know people who love their horses enough that they give up everything else to get the room for their horses. I know people who like night life enough that they give up horses so they can get that. When thinking about compromise, remember that adding density can change the personal calculation. Right now density is expensive - my horse friends pay less for their housing - including the barn - than a much smaller living space in New York would cost. (care for the horses costs more than the night life in NYC) If you can bring the cost of density down it is fair to wonder who would give up the horse lifestyle for the things you could get with density.

rtkwe 8y ago

Without a good public transportation (either through trains/busses or having the buildings close enough to jobs to walk bike [and counting on enough people to do that]) you're just jamming more people into an already congested system.