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>Way outside of the norm. >It's a tiny minority who are truly bothered. I don't think women feeling harassed by men's advances is remotely "outside the norm",

>Way outside of the norm. >It's a tiny minority who are truly bothered. I don't think women feeling harassed by men's advances is remotely "outside the norm", or a "tiny minority". It's very common, which is exactly the problem. >What about the discomfort faced by the many many women who like being chased? If people like this kind of courtship, they should be willing to communicate that, rather than making it impossible for anyone to say "no" just so they can get their kicks. If there's no safeword for this "chasing" it shouldn't be considered consensual.

sheepmullet 8y ago
> I don't think women feeling harassed by men's advances is remotely "outside the norm", or a "tiny minority". It's very common, which is exactly the problem. By college students on campus? That's not at all the impression I get from my daughter or her friends who finished college recently. Her opinion is the men are way too timid. > If people like this kind of courtship, they should be willing to communicate that Why? Why isn't it up to the minority of people who have a problem to communicate clearly? > impossible for anyone to say "no" just so they can get their kicks. It doesn't make it impossible to say no. What are you talking about? What it means is a women might have to say no a couple of times over time or make it clear they have no interest at all. I've asked a friend to meet up for coffee 3x this fortnight and he has said no each time. Should I never ask him again to get coffee? If I keep asking him does that mean he can't say no?