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> It's like you're sticking your fingers in your ears and loudly proclaiming "lalalala!". It's absolutely not like that, in fact this is a spot on description

> It's like you're sticking your fingers in your ears and loudly proclaiming "lalalala!". It's absolutely not like that, in fact this is a spot on description of your response. Politicians who hate LGBT (by words and/or by legislation), fight to regress sex education, fight to made women's health care difficult to acquire, cite obnoxious BS like "family values" while cheating on their wives, soliciting homosexual encounters in restrooms, literally actually molesting children and defending the molesters, unambiguously defending the act of rape (rather than strictly refuting allegations), unanimously voted against net neutrality, budget cuts for education to fund tax cuts for the wealthy, cut the social safety net for impoverished people like single mothers, fetishizing the struggle of poor people with social Darwinism while denying biological Darwinism as fact, all this with waves of jobs bring automated away. These politicians play lip service to the abortion crowd and get the abortion vote. You can't call yourself "Pro Life" if you want to try to force women to carry unwanted children with one hand while making the world as shitty as possible for both the single mothers and their children with your other hand. You're the one who is sticking your fingers in your ears and loudly proclaming "lalalala!". The entire abortion platform is set up to fuck us all over as soon as the child is born. I've demonstrated that I actually care about human life, at least 100x more than you. You care about human being born. You immidietly don't give a shit about them the second after they're born.

socceroos 8y ago
> These politicians play lip service to the abortion crowd and get the abortion vote. You can't call yourself "Pro Life" if you want to try to force women to carry unwanted children with one hand while making the world as shitty as possible for both the single mothers and their children with your other hand. You're the one who is sticking your fingers in your ears and loudly proclaming "lalalala!". The entire abortion platform is set up to fuck us all over as soon as the child is born. You're conflating completely unrelated politics with the point I'm making, as well as assigning them to me. > I've demonstrated that I actually care about human life, at least 100x more than you. You care about human being born. You immidietly don't give a shit about them the second after they're born. No you haven't. You're assigning to me the broad spectrum of stupidity of a political viewpoint and not addressing the argument at all.
- StellarTabi 8y ago
  > You're conflating completely unrelated politics with the point I'm making, as well as assigning them to me. Nope, you can't vote in favor of banning abortion without voting for every shitty way republicans want to fuck over minorities. I didn't conflate them, they merged themselves together decades ago. I can't take any anti-abortion arguments seriously so long as they are attached to a long list of horrendous anti-human agendas. At this point, it's extremely difficult to consider the anti-abortion agenda to be anything other than about controlling and discriminating women. If you sincerely cared about babies, you would be completely disgusted by the way they are treated and supported after birth. But you literally only care that they pop-out alive. There's no argument to consider because nothing about your position is sincere.
  - socceroos 8y ago
    > Nope, you can't vote in favor of banning abortion without voting for every shitty way republicans want to fuck over minorities. You've set aside reason. > If you sincerely cared about babies, you would be completely disgusted by the way they are treated and supported after birth. I am. However, despite this fact I'm not sure you can look past your hyperbole to discuss the points rationally. > But you literally only care that they pop-out alive. Where did you get this from? You're just saying random things. I can only assume you're either in a confused rage or you're just trying to misdirect the discussion to prevent rational thought about what I'm saying.
    - StellarTabi 8y ago
      Nope, I'm the rational one here. Rationality would show that you should focus on fixing several of the endless things wrong with this world rather than isolate "baby murder" in a vacuum in a comically distopian with a hypocritical fashion. I know you're exactly what you're saying. Baby murder bad, why refusing to acknowledge that baby murder abolishionist don't actually care about making the world a better place.

socceroos 8y ago

> These politicians play lip service to the abortion crowd and get the abortion vote. You can't call yourself "Pro Life" if you want to try to force women to carry unwanted children with one hand while making the world as shitty as possible for both the single mothers and their children with your other hand. You're the one who is sticking your fingers in your ears and loudly proclaming "lalalala!". The entire abortion platform is set up to fuck us all over as soon as the child is born. You're conflating completely unrelated politics with the point I'm making, as well as assigning them to me. > I've demonstrated that I actually care about human life, at least 100x more than you. You care about human being born. You immidietly don't give a shit about them the second after they're born. No you haven't. You're assigning to me the broad spectrum of stupidity of a political viewpoint and not addressing the argument at all.

StellarTabi 8y ago
> You're conflating completely unrelated politics with the point I'm making, as well as assigning them to me. Nope, you can't vote in favor of banning abortion without voting for every shitty way republicans want to fuck over minorities. I didn't conflate them, they merged themselves together decades ago. I can't take any anti-abortion arguments seriously so long as they are attached to a long list of horrendous anti-human agendas. At this point, it's extremely difficult to consider the anti-abortion agenda to be anything other than about controlling and discriminating women. If you sincerely cared about babies, you would be completely disgusted by the way they are treated and supported after birth. But you literally only care that they pop-out alive. There's no argument to consider because nothing about your position is sincere.
- socceroos 8y ago
  > Nope, you can't vote in favor of banning abortion without voting for every shitty way republicans want to fuck over minorities. You've set aside reason. > If you sincerely cared about babies, you would be completely disgusted by the way they are treated and supported after birth. I am. However, despite this fact I'm not sure you can look past your hyperbole to discuss the points rationally. > But you literally only care that they pop-out alive. Where did you get this from? You're just saying random things. I can only assume you're either in a confused rage or you're just trying to misdirect the discussion to prevent rational thought about what I'm saying.
  - StellarTabi 8y ago
    Nope, I'm the rational one here. Rationality would show that you should focus on fixing several of the endless things wrong with this world rather than isolate "baby murder" in a vacuum in a comically distopian with a hypocritical fashion. I know you're exactly what you're saying. Baby murder bad, why refusing to acknowledge that baby murder abolishionist don't actually care about making the world a better place.