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"And even if you are successful, you have to consider the ethics of what you're enabling..." This is the thing I don't understand. Ten years ago, you could mak

"And even if you are successful, you have to consider the ethics of what you're enabling..." This is the thing I don't understand. Ten years ago, you could make a case that simply by making stuff people want, the world would become more connected, all sorts of goodness will happen. You can no longer make that case. People are not idiots. They see both the good and bad that tech has brought. Technology companies are ethically responsible for what their tools end up doing. And if they can't be bothered to develop their own ethics, the rest of us are going to have to develop some for them. I must be missing something. YC is a really smart bunch of guys. Certainly they know what the hell they're getting into.

d4rti 9y ago
> The most amazing thing about Silicon Valley is that they all think they are on the left side of the political spectrum, while it is totally unquestioned that the venture capital firms should make every single decision on how human activity is organized. Existentialist Comics https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/988877507611967489 https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/98887750761196748...
- chillacy 9y ago
  The political spectrum is more like a political plane, with one axis being economic and the other being social, and with a 2 party system we've conveniently collapsed it into a line. It's probably more accurate to say that silicon valley runs libertarian, especially those in the startup game, and especially YC and folks. http://www.paulgraham.com/inequality.html http://www.paulgraham.com/inequality.html
goseeastarwar 9y ago
Cash Rules Everything Around Me So says Wu-Tang Clan and apparently YC.
- zappo2938 9y ago
  I think the song was about rising out poverty and that the Wu-tang did it music instead of gangbanging, killing, and drug dealing. They use their own experiences to show young men living in poverty that the can find other means to obtain respect and lots of money that is healthy for themselves and their communities.
  - polmoya 9y ago
    I don't think so
  - aoner 9y ago
    Quite the opposite. The songs is about them selling drugs: “Catchin' keys from 'cross seas, Rollin' in MPV's, Every week we made forty G's” The basic premise is money rules everything so if I want power/influence/success I have to either play the game or accept defeat. “Method Man is not glorifying money and excess; rather, he’s saying that money holds power, and is a factor of major decisions made in the world he lives in. Those who have it, have power and those who don’t, won’t get up anywhere; sort of a way of saying “Money is the root of all evil”, if you will.”
baybal2 9y ago
>I must be missing something. YC is a really smart bunch of guys. Certainly they know what the hell they're getting into. It seems so very much. From my impression, SV people in China are not to run a new business, rather than to secure connections. See, they did not pair with a university with a genuine tech cred, nor they hold this school anywhere close to a tech hub, but in Beijing, and a university that is second after the central committee party school. The list of invited people I've heard also suggest that.
- dmoy 9y ago
  Wait is the implication here that tsinghua uni has no tech cred? I agree that parts of tsinghua are pretty chummy with the party, but trying to claim it has no tech cred seems a bit of a stretch. It's arguably in like the top 10 eng/comp sci unis in the entire world. Both QS and ARWU put it in top 10. (THE puts it in top 20)
  - baybal2 9y ago
    Tsinghua Uni is big in everything, not only tech as "the official no. 1 university in the country by decree" must be. Not to say that it is also freaking wealthy, as much alike Yale Uni is in USA (through Tsinghua University Group Holding.) No denial from me that that they do pump out high profile publications in amount enough to bruteforce themselves into ratings. Think of them as a Moscow State Uni back in USSR times. The few universities Chinese tech scene gives cred, are virtually unknown in the West, you will not find them on any rating list, but that does not preclude their students be "booked" years in advance by the industry.
    - ptx 9y ago
      Could you name those few unknown universities with tech cred? I'm genuinely curious, in case I decide to study computer science in China in the future. I thought Tsinghua was the one to aim for.
      - baybal2 9y ago
icantdrive55 9y ago
"They see both the good and bad that tech has brought." I am seeing very little good. I'm just seeing more, and more jobs dissapearing. ("But the unemployment rate is so low?" Look at the the number of able bodied people not working number. I number people don't look at.) And the poeople with money building monopolies. (I guess that's the end result of Capitalism? And people who pride themselves on questionable morals/ethics? And at the same time, I'm here daily?
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d4rti 9y ago

> The most amazing thing about Silicon Valley is that they all think they are on the left side of the political spectrum, while it is totally unquestioned that the venture capital firms should make every single decision on how human activity is organized. Existentialist Comics https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/988877507611967489 https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/98887750761196748...

chillacy 9y ago
The political spectrum is more like a political plane, with one axis being economic and the other being social, and with a 2 party system we've conveniently collapsed it into a line. It's probably more accurate to say that silicon valley runs libertarian, especially those in the startup game, and especially YC and folks. http://www.paulgraham.com/inequality.html http://www.paulgraham.com/inequality.html

goseeastarwar 9y ago

Cash Rules Everything Around Me So says Wu-Tang Clan and apparently YC.

zappo2938 9y ago
I think the song was about rising out poverty and that the Wu-tang did it music instead of gangbanging, killing, and drug dealing. They use their own experiences to show young men living in poverty that the can find other means to obtain respect and lots of money that is healthy for themselves and their communities.
- polmoya 9y ago
  I don't think so
- aoner 9y ago
  Quite the opposite. The songs is about them selling drugs: “Catchin' keys from 'cross seas, Rollin' in MPV's, Every week we made forty G's” The basic premise is money rules everything so if I want power/influence/success I have to either play the game or accept defeat. “Method Man is not glorifying money and excess; rather, he’s saying that money holds power, and is a factor of major decisions made in the world he lives in. Those who have it, have power and those who don’t, won’t get up anywhere; sort of a way of saying “Money is the root of all evil”, if you will.”

baybal2 9y ago

>I must be missing something. YC is a really smart bunch of guys. Certainly they know what the hell they're getting into. It seems so very much. From my impression, SV people in China are not to run a new business, rather than to secure connections. See, they did not pair with a university with a genuine tech cred, nor they hold this school anywhere close to a tech hub, but in Beijing, and a university that is second after the central committee party school. The list of invited people I've heard also suggest that.

dmoy 9y ago
Wait is the implication here that tsinghua uni has no tech cred? I agree that parts of tsinghua are pretty chummy with the party, but trying to claim it has no tech cred seems a bit of a stretch. It's arguably in like the top 10 eng/comp sci unis in the entire world. Both QS and ARWU put it in top 10. (THE puts it in top 20)
- baybal2 9y ago
  Tsinghua Uni is big in everything, not only tech as "the official no. 1 university in the country by decree" must be. Not to say that it is also freaking wealthy, as much alike Yale Uni is in USA (through Tsinghua University Group Holding.) No denial from me that that they do pump out high profile publications in amount enough to bruteforce themselves into ratings. Think of them as a Moscow State Uni back in USSR times. The few universities Chinese tech scene gives cred, are virtually unknown in the West, you will not find them on any rating list, but that does not preclude their students be "booked" years in advance by the industry.
  - ptx 9y ago
    Could you name those few unknown universities with tech cred? I'm genuinely curious, in case I decide to study computer science in China in the future. I thought Tsinghua was the one to aim for.
    - baybal2 9y ago

icantdrive55 9y ago

"They see both the good and bad that tech has brought." I am seeing very little good. I'm just seeing more, and more jobs dissapearing. ("But the unemployment rate is so low?" Look at the the number of able bodied people not working number. I number people don't look at.) And the poeople with money building monopolies. (I guess that's the end result of Capitalism? And people who pride themselves on questionable morals/ethics? And at the same time, I'm here daily?

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