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Anyone know how this works with IMAP? Does it just not show up in IMAP, otherwise forwarding etc. is trivial (ignoring the fact that you could just screenshot t

Anyone know how this works with IMAP? Does it just not show up in IMAP, otherwise forwarding etc. is trivial (ignoring the fact that you could just screenshot the message and send the screenshot)

y_molodtsov 9y ago
I'm not sure that even will be available to non-Gmail users natively, probably you'll just see a link to check the message.
- dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
  It can't be available as a message, only as a link, otherwise it wouldn't work. But in this case it shouldn't even be called an "e-mail", it only confuses people.
- dantiberian 9y ago
  Yep, I think thats it. I don't remember where I saw the screenshot, but for anyone not viewing through a Gmail app or site, you get a web link to click on to view the message.
josteink 9y ago
> Anyone know how this works with IMAP? The email contains a link to a site controlled by Google which holds the actual "email's" content. Forwarding the email will only forward a link to an access-controlled resource.
- Applejinx 9y ago
  Finally, email meets DRM!
  - josteink 9y ago
    Not to mention everyone who uses email may now need to have a Google-account to read email, even if they don't use Google mail services themselves. I wonder if they had any discussions about this internally, and if anyone on the engineering team objected to such changes. I find it hard to believe such a change was done by pure accident without anyone noticing.
    - bonesss 9y ago
      Discussions about it internally? They're pushing GSuite for governments, corporations, schools... Things like 'read receipts', email recalls, and such are common questions and common scenarios that are supported by their competition. I bet this is in a well curated list of requests from schools, healthcare organisations, and MegaCorps alike... For people outside the Google sphere there are numerous alternatives to make this appealing. A single-use link, for example, or just slapping OAuth on there. The baseline is open email, so any kind of trace-ability is a huge improvement.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    It's not new: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/encrypt-for-outside-users/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/encrypt-for-ou...
czechdeveloper 9y ago
I'd expect they will just send you link to view message in browser. So you will not be able to view message normally unless you use Gmail and that is probably goal of this feature.

Anyone know how this works with IMAP? Does it just not show up in IMAP, otherwise forwarding etc. is trivial (ignoring the fact that you could just screenshot the message and send the screenshot)

y_molodtsov 9y ago

I'm not sure that even will be available to non-Gmail users natively, probably you'll just see a link to check the message.

dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
It can't be available as a message, only as a link, otherwise it wouldn't work. But in this case it shouldn't even be called an "e-mail", it only confuses people.
dantiberian 9y ago
Yep, I think thats it. I don't remember where I saw the screenshot, but for anyone not viewing through a Gmail app or site, you get a web link to click on to view the message.

josteink 9y ago

> Anyone know how this works with IMAP? The email contains a link to a site controlled by Google which holds the actual "email's" content. Forwarding the email will only forward a link to an access-controlled resource.

Applejinx 9y ago
Finally, email meets DRM!
- josteink 9y ago
  Not to mention everyone who uses email may now need to have a Google-account to read email, even if they don't use Google mail services themselves. I wonder if they had any discussions about this internally, and if anyone on the engineering team objected to such changes. I find it hard to believe such a change was done by pure accident without anyone noticing.
  - bonesss 9y ago
    Discussions about it internally? They're pushing GSuite for governments, corporations, schools... Things like 'read receipts', email recalls, and such are common questions and common scenarios that are supported by their competition. I bet this is in a well curated list of requests from schools, healthcare organisations, and MegaCorps alike... For people outside the Google sphere there are numerous alternatives to make this appealing. A single-use link, for example, or just slapping OAuth on there. The baseline is open email, so any kind of trace-ability is a huge improvement.
- icebraining 9y ago
  It's not new: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/encrypt-for-outside-users/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/encrypt-for-ou...

czechdeveloper 9y ago

I'd expect they will just send you link to view message in browser. So you will not be able to view message normally unless you use Gmail and that is probably goal of this feature.