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Not a terrible idea. NY should be split as well, maybe then the NYC subway will be fixed. NYC metro area pays 11B more in taxes that takes back. Basically su

Not a terrible idea. NY should be split as well, maybe then the NYC subway will be fixed. NYC metro area pays 11B more in taxes that takes back. Basically subsidizing the rest of the state while we swelter in subways stuck in tunnels, crappy service, and other nonsense. While there are people in Upstate NY that think that NYC politics occupies the state's agenda too much. I honestly believe the state would be better split. http://media.syracuse.com/state_impact/photo/2015/08/24/new-amsterdamjpg-3013598832c71aa5.jpg http://media.syracuse.com/state_impact/photo/2015/08/24/new-... https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/in-the-news/joseph-e-robach/splitting-new-york-state https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/in-the-news/joseph-e-robac...

diogenescynic 9y ago
Same thing in the Bay Area. We are 20% the state’s population but pay 40% of the taxes.
- nontechdude1 9y ago
  the rest of the state (and country) is paying bonds for the high speed rail project that is essentially a silicon valley commuter train
technofiend 9y ago
Repairing and upgrading subways would require local political wherewithal that NYC has not demonstrated so far. If Albany is truly draining fare money from MTA your rides might be cheaper but the changes wouldn't happen any faster. But is Albany really getting money from the NYC MTA? I'm skeptical.
- ardit33 9y ago
  Yes, the MTA is actually controlled by Albany and not NYC, which is crazy. More than 1.5B funding has been diverted in other things. The MTA should be controlled by NYC and the counties that are near by, and affected by it. Albany is hundreds of miles away, plus most of upstate is so far, that might as well be a different state. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/nyregion/new-york-subway-system-failure-delays.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/nyregion/new-york-subway-... "They stripped a combined $1.5 billion from the M.T.A. by repeatedly diverting tax revenues earmarked for the subways and also by demanding large payments for financial advice, I.T. help and other services "
nontechdude1 9y ago
I'm kind of sad it's come to the point where different regions of America claim they're "subsidizing" other regions populated by other Americans. I mean, I'm sick of "subsidizing" all the black people in the US; why can't we just kick them all out? (this was sarcasm) Of course, there is no way for me to know whether or not the time difference between the US and Moscow is significant enough to prevent HackerNews IRA shifts from happening.
- ardit33 9y ago
  By 'subsiding', I mean other ares of the state get the funds, while the subway (which most poor people in NYC take), get shafted. In real life that means a poor person going to work gets fired because they are late again, as the subway broke down yet again, and taking a taxi is too expensive/cost prohibitive for them. Yes, it affects most poor and middle class people in NYC. Remember, rich people probably use uber/limos/black-cars and don't have to mingle with the 'commoners' down there.
  - nontechdude1 9y ago
    the financial industry and poor people who happen to live in nyc are very, very, very disparate things. when you're the global headquarters for a globally important industries, you're in a separate world from the problems around you. which is probably best. note how the bay area housing crisis, although caused by tech firms, is pretty handily ignored by people who helped cause it. not all politics is local.

diogenescynic 9y ago

Same thing in the Bay Area. We are 20% the state’s population but pay 40% of the taxes.

nontechdude1 9y ago
the rest of the state (and country) is paying bonds for the high speed rail project that is essentially a silicon valley commuter train

technofiend 9y ago

Repairing and upgrading subways would require local political wherewithal that NYC has not demonstrated so far. If Albany is truly draining fare money from MTA your rides might be cheaper but the changes wouldn't happen any faster. But is Albany really getting money from the NYC MTA? I'm skeptical.

ardit33 9y ago
Yes, the MTA is actually controlled by Albany and not NYC, which is crazy. More than 1.5B funding has been diverted in other things. The MTA should be controlled by NYC and the counties that are near by, and affected by it. Albany is hundreds of miles away, plus most of upstate is so far, that might as well be a different state. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/nyregion/new-york-subway-system-failure-delays.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/nyregion/new-york-subway-... "They stripped a combined $1.5 billion from the M.T.A. by repeatedly diverting tax revenues earmarked for the subways and also by demanding large payments for financial advice, I.T. help and other services "

nontechdude1 9y ago

I'm kind of sad it's come to the point where different regions of America claim they're "subsidizing" other regions populated by other Americans. I mean, I'm sick of "subsidizing" all the black people in the US; why can't we just kick them all out? (this was sarcasm) Of course, there is no way for me to know whether or not the time difference between the US and Moscow is significant enough to prevent HackerNews IRA shifts from happening.

ardit33 9y ago
By 'subsiding', I mean other ares of the state get the funds, while the subway (which most poor people in NYC take), get shafted. In real life that means a poor person going to work gets fired because they are late again, as the subway broke down yet again, and taking a taxi is too expensive/cost prohibitive for them. Yes, it affects most poor and middle class people in NYC. Remember, rich people probably use uber/limos/black-cars and don't have to mingle with the 'commoners' down there.
- nontechdude1 9y ago
  the financial industry and poor people who happen to live in nyc are very, very, very disparate things. when you're the global headquarters for a globally important industries, you're in a separate world from the problems around you. which is probably best. note how the bay area housing crisis, although caused by tech firms, is pretty handily ignored by people who helped cause it. not all politics is local.