3 ms·
Only as a matter of degree I suppose. For valuable enough knowledge, I'd support medical experiments on unconsenting human subjects too if it were the only opti
by firethief 9y ago
Only as a matter of degree I suppose. For valuable enough knowledge, I'd support medical experiments on unconsenting human subjects too if it were the only option. But this is a very hypothetical situation; the former bar and the latter constraint are extraordinarily unlikely ever to coincide (they are very rarely met even separately).
- komali2 9y agoThat is the problem with these hypotheticals, yea. In what circumstance do we absolutely need to perform human experimentation on unconsenting humans to get results? But because these are my favorite too-drunk-at-a-bar conversations I wanna give it a crack. Here's a couple things I think require human experimentation 1. Creative a definitive best-practice guide to child rearing. I.e., hitting yes/no? Shouting at yes/no? 2. Fully understanding primitive/baseline human psychology absent of culture, which could help us understand if there is for example biological morality, how to teach language, how languages form. Can't see how to do this without abandoning a child in the wilderness. 3. Determining best-case formula for human tribal organization. I.e. what's the most effective leadership traits, organizational schemes, rule enforcement mechanisms... Could be figured out with Vaults ;) 4. Is post-death ressurection possible and at what point? I suppose you can get consent before death, but does that count when that individual terminates? Can you think of any more? What are your thoughts on what would be "worth it?"
- wavefunction 9y agoYour first two examples don't even seem scientific, or at least incredibly difficult to structure as a study in a truly scientific way.
- komali2 9y agoReduce for simplification: How do we scientifically demonstrate effective means of raising children without experimentation on children?