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I have a question - why does the fab machine lithographic printing etch out a half a chip on the edge of the wafer like in the article picture. I presume the wa

I have a question - why does the fab machine lithographic printing etch out a half a chip on the edge of the wafer like in the article picture. I presume the wafers are a standard 300mm size, so is it just because the designers were too lazy to remove the half chips on the edges from their mask template designs ?

rb808 8y ago
Aha I had a question too why wafers are round. The answer is Crystals form in a cylinder then sliced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_(electronics)#Formation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_(electronics)#Formation. Sorry it doesn't answer your question but helped me. :)
- tropo 8y ago
  You could slice a cylinder the other way. That would give you rectangles, with the short dimension varying. I'm not so sure you'd save any space, but recycling the unused portion might be more reasonable to do.
  - plv7 8y ago
    The manufacturing process for semiconductors uses a standardized wafer size (in a given fab) so everything can be automated and simplified as far as possible. Having even something like just two wafer sizes makes a lot of the tooling/storage/transfer more complicated and expensive, so it's best to stick to one size and shape. In order to have uniform rectangular slices of the silicon crystal, you'd have to slice off horizontal cylinder segments. And that would defeat the purpose because if you just used circular wafers you'd have been able to get a couple dies out of that area.
  - neltnerb 8y ago
    The problem is that it is a single crystal of silicon. To keep it atomically flat you cannot cut it at any angle. You must cut it across the axis the crystal grows in or the surface will be rough and the wafer will likely crack in half in a stiff breeze. I suppose you could go for some more on-axis cuts, but the crystal planes are pretty restrictive on what you can do. You'd end up having super long and narrow pieces and such. http://www.crystal-scientific.com/xtal_orientation.html http://www.crystal-scientific.com/xtal_orientation.html
    - tropo 8y ago
      The orientation is determined by the seed crystal. You can choose whatever you want. There will of course be long and skinny pieces. These will be much easier to recycle than the unused portions around the edge of a circular wafer; they need not leave the facility that cuts the wafers. The end result is rectangles of a standard size in one dimension and varying side in the other dimension.
chas 8y ago
It makes it so all of the chips they will use have all of their neighbors, so the process (and thus electrical properties) will be more uniform between chips near the edge and chips near the center.
pocak 8y ago
If your chips aren't very large, you can fit multiple copies in the reticle. E.g., if the litho machine has a 40mm by 50mm reticle, and you're making a 10mm by 10mm die, you can expose 20 dice at a time. It's usually worth it to go out to the edges even if you only get a few complete chips from the exposure. I can't find a wafer picture for Nvidia's GV100, but presumably a giant chip like that uses the whole reticle, so I don't expect to see partial chips on its wafer.

rb808 8y ago

Aha I had a question too why wafers are round. The answer is Crystals form in a cylinder then sliced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_(electronics)#Formation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_(electronics)#Formation. Sorry it doesn't answer your question but helped me. :)

tropo 8y ago
You could slice a cylinder the other way. That would give you rectangles, with the short dimension varying. I'm not so sure you'd save any space, but recycling the unused portion might be more reasonable to do.
- plv7 8y ago
  The manufacturing process for semiconductors uses a standardized wafer size (in a given fab) so everything can be automated and simplified as far as possible. Having even something like just two wafer sizes makes a lot of the tooling/storage/transfer more complicated and expensive, so it's best to stick to one size and shape. In order to have uniform rectangular slices of the silicon crystal, you'd have to slice off horizontal cylinder segments. And that would defeat the purpose because if you just used circular wafers you'd have been able to get a couple dies out of that area.
- neltnerb 8y ago
  The problem is that it is a single crystal of silicon. To keep it atomically flat you cannot cut it at any angle. You must cut it across the axis the crystal grows in or the surface will be rough and the wafer will likely crack in half in a stiff breeze. I suppose you could go for some more on-axis cuts, but the crystal planes are pretty restrictive on what you can do. You'd end up having super long and narrow pieces and such. http://www.crystal-scientific.com/xtal_orientation.html http://www.crystal-scientific.com/xtal_orientation.html
  - tropo 8y ago
    The orientation is determined by the seed crystal. You can choose whatever you want. There will of course be long and skinny pieces. These will be much easier to recycle than the unused portions around the edge of a circular wafer; they need not leave the facility that cuts the wafers. The end result is rectangles of a standard size in one dimension and varying side in the other dimension.

chas 8y ago

It makes it so all of the chips they will use have all of their neighbors, so the process (and thus electrical properties) will be more uniform between chips near the edge and chips near the center.

pocak 8y ago

If your chips aren't very large, you can fit multiple copies in the reticle. E.g., if the litho machine has a 40mm by 50mm reticle, and you're making a 10mm by 10mm die, you can expose 20 dice at a time. It's usually worth it to go out to the edges even if you only get a few complete chips from the exposure. I can't find a wafer picture for Nvidia's GV100, but presumably a giant chip like that uses the whole reticle, so I don't expect to see partial chips on its wafer.