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Agreed. I once got a call out of the blue that I was being laid off. I had always associated stability with success: as long as I was doing a good job, my job w

Agreed. I once got a call out of the blue that I was being laid off. I had always associated stability with success: as long as I was doing a good job, my job would be secure. That was not the case. It was purely a business decision for them, but I left dazed and wondering what to do. I had always planned job changes on my terms. But it was also freeing in that I now could find opportunities I would've missed. I'm much happier where I am now.

fjsolwmv 9y ago
Perhaps your last employers were dazed when you left.
- bengale 9y ago
  Most employers are aware of how business engagements work.
  - candiodari 9y ago
    And the reason you see "starter-level" next to important jobs is that most employers are aware ... that starters don't have a clue.
- coldtea 9y ago
  They still have the power and the money to employ other people. Which is a different situation that needing to be employed to put food on the table.
  - derekp7 9y ago
    To put this in a slightly different perspective. Let's say you had hired a babysitter so you could go out for the evening. At the last minute, the babysitter cancels, and it is too late to get another one. Now you are either scrambling (calling relatives, etc) or you cancel your evening plans. Now let's add to this that your kids really like this particular babysitter, who has quit the babysitting business permanently, and it takes a bit of trial and error to find a replacement that will work for your kids. So an employee leaving does have some impact. On the employee side, of course there is the food-on-the-table issue, which can be important if there isn't a safety net. Which is why it is critical to live within 75% of your paycheck, so that every year you can survive 3 months unemployment.
    - coldtea 9y ago
      >Which is why it is critical to live within 75% of your paycheck, so that every year you can survive 3 months unemployment. And then you get sudden medical bills or more months unemployment or some other sudden expense :-(
      - baud147258 9y ago
        But if you're not living paycheck to paycheck, unexpected expense are easier to survive.
- mysterydip 9y ago
  I would always give at least two weeks notice, and in one case interview my replacement. So while it may have been a shock, they always had time to adjust, and I didn't leave loose ends.
gamblor956 9y ago
Same thing happened to me. I was taking my first vacation in two years and I got a call just after lunch. My boss said, "I need to let someone go because our numbers are down from where we want them to be. And it's going to be you, because you'll probably have the best chance of finding a new job." Highest grosser in the region 5 years straight. Aced the performance review. Brought in several clients, a few of which are YC graduates. But because Bob in NY wanted us to hit 25% growth for the 5th year in a row and we were only going to reach 5-10% YOY, someone had to get cut so the partners wouldn't see a drop in expected take-home payments. And I was the most expensive employee in the region. Fuck loyalty. On the bright side, my new job was only a small pay cut, but literally half the work load and all the vacation I could ask for. In a sick way, getting laid off worked out for the best. But those weeks between jobs were the most stressful of my life.

fjsolwmv 9y ago

Perhaps your last employers were dazed when you left.

bengale 9y ago
Most employers are aware of how business engagements work.
- candiodari 9y ago
  And the reason you see "starter-level" next to important jobs is that most employers are aware ... that starters don't have a clue.
coldtea 9y ago
They still have the power and the money to employ other people. Which is a different situation that needing to be employed to put food on the table.
- derekp7 9y ago
  To put this in a slightly different perspective. Let's say you had hired a babysitter so you could go out for the evening. At the last minute, the babysitter cancels, and it is too late to get another one. Now you are either scrambling (calling relatives, etc) or you cancel your evening plans. Now let's add to this that your kids really like this particular babysitter, who has quit the babysitting business permanently, and it takes a bit of trial and error to find a replacement that will work for your kids. So an employee leaving does have some impact. On the employee side, of course there is the food-on-the-table issue, which can be important if there isn't a safety net. Which is why it is critical to live within 75% of your paycheck, so that every year you can survive 3 months unemployment.
  - coldtea 9y ago
    >Which is why it is critical to live within 75% of your paycheck, so that every year you can survive 3 months unemployment. And then you get sudden medical bills or more months unemployment or some other sudden expense :-(
    - baud147258 9y ago
      But if you're not living paycheck to paycheck, unexpected expense are easier to survive.
mysterydip 9y ago
I would always give at least two weeks notice, and in one case interview my replacement. So while it may have been a shock, they always had time to adjust, and I didn't leave loose ends.

gamblor956 9y ago

Same thing happened to me. I was taking my first vacation in two years and I got a call just after lunch. My boss said, "I need to let someone go because our numbers are down from where we want them to be. And it's going to be you, because you'll probably have the best chance of finding a new job." Highest grosser in the region 5 years straight. Aced the performance review. Brought in several clients, a few of which are YC graduates. But because Bob in NY wanted us to hit 25% growth for the 5th year in a row and we were only going to reach 5-10% YOY, someone had to get cut so the partners wouldn't see a drop in expected take-home payments. And I was the most expensive employee in the region. Fuck loyalty. On the bright side, my new job was only a small pay cut, but literally half the work load and all the vacation I could ask for. In a sick way, getting laid off worked out for the best. But those weeks between jobs were the most stressful of my life.