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Dunno if it's underappreciated. I appreciate it for this reason, and similar ones. I assume this is why the idea resonated/s with the likes of friedman and also

Dunno if it's underappreciated. I appreciate it for this reason, and similar ones. I assume this is why the idea resonated/s with the likes of friedman and also left-libertarian leaning thinkers. I don't think all problems can be solved quite this way, and I don't fundamentally have a problem with secondary currencies as an instrument, as long as they work good. In this case, taking the premise as is (food stamps should exist and apps should exist to make them work better), what you inevitably have is an artificial market. It's not impossible to have a core system onto which independent developers can build apps.

lr4444lr 9y ago
Incidental to your point about apps, I wonder if Propel can't deliver a devastating blow with a digital records FOIA request. Conduent will fight it tooth and nail, and it may be worth Propel's while to put some professional legal help on it, but since the data is being paid for by the taxpayer, as long as it can be redacted so that personal information isn't shared (which Propel could be required to pay for), Conduent may have no recourse to keep their data under lock and key. App users could be shown how to request their primary key or some other permissible identifier under FOIA from Conduent, and then they'd be reduced to a mere primary data warehousing and collection outfit.
- mcherm 9y ago
  > I wonder if Propel can't deliver a devastating blow with a digital records FOIA request I wouldn't think so. Propel needs current data, and taking a month or two to respond to each FOIA request would make the data untimely even if the FOIA request is deemed to be valid. > App users could be shown how to request their primary key or some other permissible identifier under FOIA from Conduent, and then they'd be reduced to a mere primary data warehousing and collection outfit. If I understand the article correctly, Propel already knows the individual's primary key and their app was working fine. Then Conduent stopped responding to API calls from Propel's app. Knowing the ID doesn't help with that problem.

lr4444lr 9y ago

Incidental to your point about apps, I wonder if Propel can't deliver a devastating blow with a digital records FOIA request. Conduent will fight it tooth and nail, and it may be worth Propel's while to put some professional legal help on it, but since the data is being paid for by the taxpayer, as long as it can be redacted so that personal information isn't shared (which Propel could be required to pay for), Conduent may have no recourse to keep their data under lock and key. App users could be shown how to request their primary key or some other permissible identifier under FOIA from Conduent, and then they'd be reduced to a mere primary data warehousing and collection outfit.

mcherm 9y ago
> I wonder if Propel can't deliver a devastating blow with a digital records FOIA request I wouldn't think so. Propel needs current data, and taking a month or two to respond to each FOIA request would make the data untimely even if the FOIA request is deemed to be valid. > App users could be shown how to request their primary key or some other permissible identifier under FOIA from Conduent, and then they'd be reduced to a mere primary data warehousing and collection outfit. If I understand the article correctly, Propel already knows the individual's primary key and their app was working fine. Then Conduent stopped responding to API calls from Propel's app. Knowing the ID doesn't help with that problem.