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In my personal experience, people use PHP because it is the only thing that they were taught. NOT because they have considered options and have consciously deci

In my personal experience, people use PHP because it is the only thing that they were taught. NOT because they have considered options and have consciously decided to settle on PHP.

legostormtroopr 8y ago
The same can be said for JavaScript. Even worse can be said of JavaScript, a PHP developer will have to learn JavaScript for any client side behaviour, whereas the entire JavaScript community has rebuilt large code bases to not have to learn anything else.
- TrickyRick 8y ago
  Not true, I started off with Java, learned Objective-C, then PHP and finally JS (And by JS I mean Node) and today I still settle on Node for all my hobby project simply because it's so easy to get something up and running. However I wouldn't use it for a larger-scale project with a big team - but I wouldn't use PHP for that either. ;)
- AmericanChopper 8y ago
  Node is pretty much the new PHP. JS is pretty easy to pick up, a lot of people know it, and then node was invented so that people could just write their whole stack in it. Apart from ‘I already know it’, most people would be hard pressed to come up with a reason why node was the best choice for their project. You can say the same about PHP, except... PHP is infinitely more fucked and nonsensical than JS. There’s no project where PHP is the best choice, or even a realistically defensible choice. It is also an enduring blight upon the internet. PHP apps are riddled with bugs and vulnerabilities.
realPubkey 8y ago
This is so true. I used PHP for 4 years just because I didn't knew anything else. Now I know python, java, javascript, rust and my decision to stick at javascript was clear and prudent. Today I would never devil anyone for using php or whatever feels good for them.
karlshea 8y ago
That’s not necessarily true. I learned BASIC and C/C++ first, then Java, then six years of .NET, but almost only used PHP for the last decade because that’s just what’s used in the market I work in (e.g. content managed websites). People are going to use what makes them money, and what makes the most sense for the project. Thankfully when using the right frameworks modern PHP feels more like a real OO language instead of the clusterfuck it used to be.
wwweston 8y ago
shrug I've built things in more than 10 languages and sometimes I consciously choose PHP.

In my personal experience, people use PHP because it is the only thing that they were taught. NOT because they have considered options and have consciously decided to settle on PHP.

legostormtroopr 8y ago

The same can be said for JavaScript. Even worse can be said of JavaScript, a PHP developer will have to learn JavaScript for any client side behaviour, whereas the entire JavaScript community has rebuilt large code bases to not have to learn anything else.

TrickyRick 8y ago
Not true, I started off with Java, learned Objective-C, then PHP and finally JS (And by JS I mean Node) and today I still settle on Node for all my hobby project simply because it's so easy to get something up and running. However I wouldn't use it for a larger-scale project with a big team - but I wouldn't use PHP for that either. ;)
AmericanChopper 8y ago
Node is pretty much the new PHP. JS is pretty easy to pick up, a lot of people know it, and then node was invented so that people could just write their whole stack in it. Apart from ‘I already know it’, most people would be hard pressed to come up with a reason why node was the best choice for their project. You can say the same about PHP, except... PHP is infinitely more fucked and nonsensical than JS. There’s no project where PHP is the best choice, or even a realistically defensible choice. It is also an enduring blight upon the internet. PHP apps are riddled with bugs and vulnerabilities.

realPubkey 8y ago

This is so true. I used PHP for 4 years just because I didn't knew anything else. Now I know python, java, javascript, rust and my decision to stick at javascript was clear and prudent. Today I would never devil anyone for using php or whatever feels good for them.

karlshea 8y ago

That’s not necessarily true. I learned BASIC and C/C++ first, then Java, then six years of .NET, but almost only used PHP for the last decade because that’s just what’s used in the market I work in (e.g. content managed websites). People are going to use what makes them money, and what makes the most sense for the project. Thankfully when using the right frameworks modern PHP feels more like a real OO language instead of the clusterfuck it used to be.

wwweston 8y ago

shrug I've built things in more than 10 languages and sometimes I consciously choose PHP.