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When it comes to compensation, you have to show what material or non-material damages you’ve suffered You realize that "material or non-material damages" can m

When it comes to compensation, you have to show what material or non-material damages you’ve suffered You realize that "material or non-material damages" can mean just about anything right? If it were limited to "material" damages, that would at least impose some form of sanity. The way this is written, it's a free-for-all. Saying "I have had alot of trouble sleeping since I found out that only 45 of 46 tracking companies were listed on the disclosure" is all it would take for an individual to obtain money from a company under this absurd regulation.

havkom 9y ago
Yes. Exactly what non-material damages means will be up to CJEU to decide eventually. I do not think many ppl expects it to mean “free-for-all” and I do not think your “sleeping example” would suffice. Admittedly, no one can know for sure at this point in time though.
DanBC 9y ago
They'd have to prove in court (to the balance of probabilities) that they have insomnia and that the insomnia was caused by the non-disclosure. They would also have to show that this is an expected result of non-disclosure. Assuming they do this - how much do you think a compensation payput for insomnia is worth? How many thousands of pounds do you think people would get?
- downandout 9y ago
  I don’t know, but if you multiply the cost of defending one of them by the millions of such nuisance claims that will be filed by people, and it will quickly add up.
  - DanBC 9y ago
    You're saying millions of people will be willing to commit several criminal offences in order to attempt to get a payout of about £1000, in a system that routinely doesn't pay for psychological harm? I mean, those people can already do this, and they don't appear to do it, so I'm not persuaded GDPR will trigger a bunch of claims.
    - downandout 9y ago
      Is it a criminal offense though? How can it be disproven that you haven't been sleeping as well as you normally do, or that you've been having anxiety because an externally loaded PNG served a cookie that wasn't disclosed (because the website operator didn't know about it)? They'd have to disprove that to jail you for making a false claim.

havkom 9y ago

Yes. Exactly what non-material damages means will be up to CJEU to decide eventually. I do not think many ppl expects it to mean “free-for-all” and I do not think your “sleeping example” would suffice. Admittedly, no one can know for sure at this point in time though.

DanBC 9y ago

They'd have to prove in court (to the balance of probabilities) that they have insomnia and that the insomnia was caused by the non-disclosure. They would also have to show that this is an expected result of non-disclosure. Assuming they do this - how much do you think a compensation payput for insomnia is worth? How many thousands of pounds do you think people would get?

downandout 9y ago
I don’t know, but if you multiply the cost of defending one of them by the millions of such nuisance claims that will be filed by people, and it will quickly add up.
- DanBC 9y ago
  You're saying millions of people will be willing to commit several criminal offences in order to attempt to get a payout of about £1000, in a system that routinely doesn't pay for psychological harm? I mean, those people can already do this, and they don't appear to do it, so I'm not persuaded GDPR will trigger a bunch of claims.
  - downandout 9y ago
    Is it a criminal offense though? How can it be disproven that you haven't been sleeping as well as you normally do, or that you've been having anxiety because an externally loaded PNG served a cookie that wasn't disclosed (because the website operator didn't know about it)? They'd have to disprove that to jail you for making a false claim.