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I also don't think you can ignore that the discriminatory lending, policing, and other policies also affect other minorities. The US enacted into law banning Ch

I also don't think you can ignore that the discriminatory lending, policing, and other policies also affect other minorities. The US enacted into law banning Chinese immigrants, white San Francisco was ready to mob and burn down to Chinatown at some point.

40acres 8y ago
Totally agreed. I'm not trying to downplay the history of other groups in America as so much as highlighting the unique challenges that have affected black America. The US enacted a law banning Chinese.. The state I live in (Oregon) explicit banned blacks in the constitution [0]. San Francisco was ready to mob and burn down Chinatown... "Black Wall Street" in Tusla, OK was burned down by a mob.. [1] I did not want to get into a tit for tat comparison between oppression but I would implore anyone who is interested to really do their research on race in America. [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/06/07/when-portland-banned-blacks-oregons-shameful-history-as-an-all-white-state/?utm_term=.ba7084a75269 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/06/07... [1]: http://www.ebony.com/black-history/the-destruction-of-black-wall-street-405 http://www.ebony.com/black-history/the-destruction-of-black-...
SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
>I also don't think you can ignore that the discriminatory lending, policing, and other policies also affect other minorities. Just being clear, but wouldn't those also if not more so effect the immigrants OP brought up? Are we not also including Asian minorities?
dnomad 8y ago
I think you're very confused if you think other minorities faced anything like what blacks faced. Combined this with the well-known fact that most recent non-Mexican immigrants to America (after 1960) were often quite wealthy before they came to America and you're looking at a very different experience.
- mr_overalls 8y ago
  I hear that Native Americans had it pretty bad.
  - btilly 8y ago
    Have, not had. See https://www.npr.org/2011/10/25/141672992/native-foster-care-lost-children-shattered-families https://www.npr.org/2011/10/25/141672992/native-foster-care-... for one of the many current problems that natives have. For the record I have family members living on reservations. Go back a little over a century ago, and natives were hunted for sport, like game animals. It was only 40 years ago that the USA officially discontinued policies of forcibly removing children from their homes and putting them into schools where they were mistreated. I personally know people who were beaten as children for speaking in their native language. Abuse and prejudice remain facts of daily life.

40acres 8y ago

Totally agreed. I'm not trying to downplay the history of other groups in America as so much as highlighting the unique challenges that have affected black America. The US enacted a law banning Chinese.. The state I live in (Oregon) explicit banned blacks in the constitution [0]. San Francisco was ready to mob and burn down Chinatown... "Black Wall Street" in Tusla, OK was burned down by a mob.. [1] I did not want to get into a tit for tat comparison between oppression but I would implore anyone who is interested to really do their research on race in America. [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/06/07/when-portland-banned-blacks-oregons-shameful-history-as-an-all-white-state/?utm_term=.ba7084a75269 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/06/07... [1]: http://www.ebony.com/black-history/the-destruction-of-black-wall-street-405 http://www.ebony.com/black-history/the-destruction-of-black-...

SlowRobotAhead 8y ago

>I also don't think you can ignore that the discriminatory lending, policing, and other policies also affect other minorities. Just being clear, but wouldn't those also if not more so effect the immigrants OP brought up? Are we not also including Asian minorities?

dnomad 8y ago

I think you're very confused if you think other minorities faced anything like what blacks faced. Combined this with the well-known fact that most recent non-Mexican immigrants to America (after 1960) were often quite wealthy before they came to America and you're looking at a very different experience.

mr_overalls 8y ago
I hear that Native Americans had it pretty bad.
- btilly 8y ago
  Have, not had. See https://www.npr.org/2011/10/25/141672992/native-foster-care-lost-children-shattered-families https://www.npr.org/2011/10/25/141672992/native-foster-care-... for one of the many current problems that natives have. For the record I have family members living on reservations. Go back a little over a century ago, and natives were hunted for sport, like game animals. It was only 40 years ago that the USA officially discontinued policies of forcibly removing children from their homes and putting them into schools where they were mistreated. I personally know people who were beaten as children for speaking in their native language. Abuse and prejudice remain facts of daily life.