>And yet, look where they are today versus blacks. How did that happen? All blacks? Methinks you've tipped your hand. I'll indulge you though and wonder, bem

>And yet, look where they are today versus blacks. How did that happen? All blacks? Methinks you've tipped your hand. I'll indulge you though and wonder, bemusedly, if immigrants have different social structures and expectations of a country than a formerly enslaved ethnic minority whose social cohesion and family structures have been systematically dismantled and obliterated. Whose social traditions and cultural ties have been intentionally wiped out for centuries? Could an immigrant's cultural identity and ties to other immigrants with shared goals and expectations allow for a beneficial cooperative framework wherein alternative banking and lending structures are available to the newly arrived? Could a society that still murders members of its citizenry disproportionately due to their ethnic and historical legacy (and a legacy no fault their own) really offer a framework beyond simple survival to such a minority? Could the difference between being a foreigner in your new home and a "foreigner" in your own actual home country encourage different outcomes? All these questions...