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> Surely you don't run 2 loads through your washer and dryer _EVERY_ day, do you? No, but I need to be able to _any_ day, and honestly for us doing 2 loads a d

> Surely you don't run 2 loads through your washer and dryer _EVERY_ day, do you? No, but I need to be able to _any_ day, and honestly for us doing 2 loads a day happens very often - it's not an edge case for us. If you're befuddled as to how that is possible, join the club. As for shifting our day's schedule around electricity rates, good luck bringing that idea up with my wife.

Brakenshire 9y ago
Yeah, but the once a week cases are handled by a connection to the grid, just as at present. The bulk of the necessary time shift is handled by the battery and some other techniques to shift demand, and the rest is balancing contention between households in aggregate, and nudging storage and peaker plants, that is, exactly what currently occurs on the grid. > As for shifting our day's schedule around electricity rates, good luck bringing that idea up with my wife. The electricity costs of washing and drying are significant, could easily be hundreds of dollars a year. If you could save half of that by generally running a programme overnight, lots of people would do it . Not everyone would be able to because of noise, with that number increased by technological developments in software and hardware specialized for that use-case, but a lot of people would. And you wouldn't do it for every wash, only when it was convenient. This already happens over here, I often run my dishwasher overnight when the tariffs are lower, it's good for the environment and saves me money, or when I need it sooner I run it straight away.
- magduf 9y ago
  >Not everyone would be able to because of noise Then they should get newer appliances. Modern dishwashers are whisper-quiet, and modern front-loading washers are barely audible for most of the cycle. The energy savings on these newer appliances should more than pay for the initial costs pretty quickly.
  - photojosh 9y ago
    > Modern dishwashers are whisper-quiet No kidding. Our 2006 dishwasher wasn't too bad, but we just got a 2nd-hand 2016 Bosch and you can watch a movie while it's running.
- coryfklein 9y ago
  As I said, for us it's not an edge case, but the norm. May not be 2 loads every day, but if I had to guess I'd say that happens about every other day.
  - antisthenes 9y ago
    It's not an edge case for you. I assure you, the vast, overwhelming majority of households can go a workweek without using washer/dryer.
- photojosh 9y ago
  Nothing to do with solar (yet), but I have time-of-use charges here in Australia, where it was 11¢/kwh 10pm-7am, 30¢ shoulder and 45¢ 2-8pm. So you bet I only started the dryer and dishwasher after 10pm (or when I get up at 6am). We often had 2 loads of washing a day too; when you're night-time toilet training the kids it's a killer. Fortunately we're past that; now it's just loads of school and sports clothes, still not as much.
perilunar 9y ago
You live in Texas and you dry your clothes using an electric dryer? Use a clothes line - they're solar powered.

Brakenshire 9y ago

Yeah, but the once a week cases are handled by a connection to the grid, just as at present. The bulk of the necessary time shift is handled by the battery and some other techniques to shift demand, and the rest is balancing contention between households in aggregate, and nudging storage and peaker plants, that is, exactly what currently occurs on the grid. > As for shifting our day's schedule around electricity rates, good luck bringing that idea up with my wife. The electricity costs of washing and drying are significant, could easily be hundreds of dollars a year. If you could save half of that by generally running a programme overnight, lots of people would do it . Not everyone would be able to because of noise, with that number increased by technological developments in software and hardware specialized for that use-case, but a lot of people would. And you wouldn't do it for every wash, only when it was convenient. This already happens over here, I often run my dishwasher overnight when the tariffs are lower, it's good for the environment and saves me money, or when I need it sooner I run it straight away.

magduf 9y ago
>Not everyone would be able to because of noise Then they should get newer appliances. Modern dishwashers are whisper-quiet, and modern front-loading washers are barely audible for most of the cycle. The energy savings on these newer appliances should more than pay for the initial costs pretty quickly.
- photojosh 9y ago
  > Modern dishwashers are whisper-quiet No kidding. Our 2006 dishwasher wasn't too bad, but we just got a 2nd-hand 2016 Bosch and you can watch a movie while it's running.
coryfklein 9y ago
As I said, for us it's not an edge case, but the norm. May not be 2 loads every day, but if I had to guess I'd say that happens about every other day.
- antisthenes 9y ago
  It's not an edge case for you. I assure you, the vast, overwhelming majority of households can go a workweek without using washer/dryer.
photojosh 9y ago
Nothing to do with solar (yet), but I have time-of-use charges here in Australia, where it was 11¢/kwh 10pm-7am, 30¢ shoulder and 45¢ 2-8pm. So you bet I only started the dryer and dishwasher after 10pm (or when I get up at 6am). We often had 2 loads of washing a day too; when you're night-time toilet training the kids it's a killer. Fortunately we're past that; now it's just loads of school and sports clothes, still not as much.

perilunar 9y ago

You live in Texas and you dry your clothes using an electric dryer? Use a clothes line - they're solar powered.