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What does the raw data about these types of crime say though? I lived near a university and had multiple bikes stolen. If the data points to a demographic in t
by RobertRoberts 9y ago
What does the raw data about these types of crime say though?
I lived near a university and had multiple bikes stolen. If the data points to a demographic in that area, for example where 0% of bikes are stolen by women, why would people in that area react if a woman is working with her bike?
Raw data may disagree with you, but it's impartial and unbiased. (unless you want to argue the collection and recording of data is biased)
- michaelt 9y agoBeing tall is correlated with playing basketball, but you'd have to be pretty dumb to watch a short guy shooting hoops right in front of you and conclude he wasn't playing basketball.
- RobertRoberts 9y agoI can't quite figure out the argument you are making. I've had to work on my bike lock because it was "stuck", and it could look like "stealing", but I wasn't. Did I understand you correctly?
- TheCoelacanth 9y agoAnd I'm sure that the passersby had data about bicycle thief demographics that they looked at before they chose how to react.
- RobertRoberts 9y agoStatistically speaking, if 100% of bike thieves are male (in a certain location) then the inherent, and justifiable, bias from the population would be towards males. No data lookup needed.
- AnimalMuppet 9y agoHow many people in that area know that 100% of bike thieves are male? I sure don't know such statistics for my area. That's the "data lookup" that's needed - to make decisions based on statistics, you have to know the statistics.
- RobertRoberts 9y agoI guess nobody knows, but what is the explanation for people's reaction? If the town only had women bike thieves, do you think the experiment would have gone the same?
- UncleMeat 9y agoDo you believe that people hold accurate beliefs about the gender and race distribution of bike thieves?
- RobertRoberts 9y agoI think every single person has biases, even you. But also, I think that it wouldn't matter the race or sex, if someone was in your home who you did not invite, or know them. And based on their behavior, skin color, clothing, would determine if you said "hi, you must be my daughter's friend?" or "What are you doing in my house, I am calling the police!" But no one wants to admit they make judgements about anything, because that's sexist/racist/something-ist.
- sangnoir 9y agoIf it's the same clip I watched, one of the (white) male passers-by asks what the (young, white) lady is doing and she says outright that she's stealing the bike. He proceeds to offer his help!
- sangnoir 9y agoI got the link to the video[1], and I misremembered: multiple people offer to help steal the bike on different occcasions, wtf! 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7i60GuNRg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7i60GuNRg
- setr 9y agoThen it's not really a question of some implicit bias is it... sounds more like ulterior motives