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the best thing I have done recently is to disable all plugins, including flash: http://imgur.com/mCfqQ.png http://imgur.com/mCfqQ.png YouTube HTML5 support is

by bl4k 16y ago

the best thing I have done recently is to disable all plugins, including flash: http://imgur.com/mCfqQ.png http://imgur.com/mCfqQ.png YouTube HTML5 support is good, and for any other video you can directly download. Browser runs a lot faster, web pages load faster, and I don't miss flash ads at all. I also disabled flash on my parents' computer, and my brothers, and enabled YouTube HTML5 for them. They haven't noticed it yet. It is only a matter of time before more corporate networks uninstall/block all flash, especially with the bad reputation it has with security. Flash is already dead to me, I can't wait until it is dead for everybody else as well

aw3c2 16y ago
Why not completely uninstall them instead?
- frou_dh 16y ago
  IIRC Google helpfully embed Flash inside Chrome
  - loumf 16y ago
    Use the kill-flash extension for Chrome. It takes off flash elements and replaces them with a zone to click on if you want to bring it back. It has a whitelist that you can use for sites that you want flash on by default.
    - bl4k 16y ago
      Flash is still in memory, and those plugins use Javascript to 'hide' the applet
ciupicri 16y ago
Is it to me or the Quicktime plugin is still enabled and it even has a critical security update?
olalonde 16y ago
I had to turn Flash back on after a few minutes after I realized that Google Analytics charts are Flash based :(
agazso 16y ago
Use Flashblock or something similar. By default Flash objects are turned off, but you can click on them to enable. Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433/ Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cdngiadmnkhgemkimkhiilgffbjijcie https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cdngiadmnkhgemki...
- bl4k 16y ago
  As I mentioned below, I had Flashblock, and used it for a while until I noticed that Flash is still in memory and Flashblock is just some JS that hides flash elements. Killing everything is much better.
  - bhiggins 16y ago
    I don't know what Flashblock you were using but the ones I have used do not behave this way. Maybe Flash was in memory because you clicked one of them and allowed it to run?
  - bgentry 16y ago
    I used the following FlashBlock for Chrome, and using resource tracker I could see that no SWFs were downloaded on a YouTube page until after I temporarily enabled Flash on that page. https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gofhjkjmkpinhpoiabjplobcaignabnl https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gofhjkjmkpinhpoi... Is that good enough proof that the SWF is not put into memory? Also, the FlashBlockBlock page here does not load when I have the extension enabled: https://woofle.net/flashblockblock/ https://woofle.net/flashblockblock/
  - blasdel 16y ago
    Yes, extensions named 'Flashblock' are pretty universally mediocre and don't actually keep Flash from crashing your browser — they just keep it from being displayed. ClickToFlash for native Webkit views on OS X actually blocks Flash for real — it's a native Webkit plugin that registers for Flash's primary mimetype and preempts it. When you selectively enable a flash embed, it replaces itself with Adobe's NPAPI plugin.
ja27 16y ago
I did that for a while but had issues like really needing Flash on a couple sites and the fact that every Flash or PDF update would re-enable their plugins in Chrome. Now instead of disabling individual plugins, now in Chrome I do not allow any site to use plugins, then go back and whitelist sites as needed.

by bl4k 16y ago

aw3c2 16y ago

Why not completely uninstall them instead?

frou_dh 16y ago
IIRC Google helpfully embed Flash inside Chrome
- loumf 16y ago
  Use the kill-flash extension for Chrome. It takes off flash elements and replaces them with a zone to click on if you want to bring it back. It has a whitelist that you can use for sites that you want flash on by default.
  - bl4k 16y ago
    Flash is still in memory, and those plugins use Javascript to 'hide' the applet

ciupicri 16y ago

Is it to me or the Quicktime plugin is still enabled and it even has a critical security update?

olalonde 16y ago

I had to turn Flash back on after a few minutes after I realized that Google Analytics charts are Flash based :(

agazso 16y ago

Use Flashblock or something similar. By default Flash objects are turned off, but you can click on them to enable. Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433/ Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cdngiadmnkhgemkimkhiilgffbjijcie https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cdngiadmnkhgemki...

bl4k 16y ago
As I mentioned below, I had Flashblock, and used it for a while until I noticed that Flash is still in memory and Flashblock is just some JS that hides flash elements. Killing everything is much better.
- bhiggins 16y ago
  I don't know what Flashblock you were using but the ones I have used do not behave this way. Maybe Flash was in memory because you clicked one of them and allowed it to run?
- bgentry 16y ago
  I used the following FlashBlock for Chrome, and using resource tracker I could see that no SWFs were downloaded on a YouTube page until after I temporarily enabled Flash on that page. https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gofhjkjmkpinhpoiabjplobcaignabnl https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gofhjkjmkpinhpoi... Is that good enough proof that the SWF is not put into memory? Also, the FlashBlockBlock page here does not load when I have the extension enabled: https://woofle.net/flashblockblock/ https://woofle.net/flashblockblock/
- blasdel 16y ago
  Yes, extensions named 'Flashblock' are pretty universally mediocre and don't actually keep Flash from crashing your browser — they just keep it from being displayed. ClickToFlash for native Webkit views on OS X actually blocks Flash for real — it's a native Webkit plugin that registers for Flash's primary mimetype and preempts it. When you selectively enable a flash embed, it replaces itself with Adobe's NPAPI plugin.

ja27 16y ago

I did that for a while but had issues like really needing Flash on a couple sites and the fact that every Flash or PDF update would re-enable their plugins in Chrome. Now instead of disabling individual plugins, now in Chrome I do not allow any site to use plugins, then go back and whitelist sites as needed.