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Someone needs to make every file exists into an NZB, with RARs and PARs. Personally, i still maintain thats the best method of downloading large content at ful

Someone needs to make every file exists into an NZB, with RARs and PARs. Personally, i still maintain thats the best method of downloading large content at full speed with a built-in mechanism for error-checking

mseebach 16y ago
All the techs you're mentioning are workarounds for downloading large files from usenet, a protocol mindnumbingly inappropriate for that task. BitTorrent has errorchecking, and it's very good (SHA-1 hashed of each chunk, sized 32k-4m). RARs error-checking is geared towards fixing permanently damaged files, because re-getting a broken chuck was infeasible. Re-downloading up to 4mb is not an issue in this day and age, if it is ever necessary - which it's usually not. BT also supports multiple files, no need to deal with RARs or ZIPs or whatever. And what's the deal with full speed? The structure of the data being downloaded has zero bearing on the speed in BT. I have yet to come across a well-seeded torrent that couldn't max out whatever bandwidth I threw at it.
omh 16y ago
I'm not sure if you're kidding, but why would you prefer NZB/RAR/PARs over bittorrent? Bittorrent has basic hash checking, will re-download as needed from peers and most usefully you don't have to extract anything afterwards.
- krmmalik 16y ago
  I'm certainly not kidding, but nor am i technically adept as your goodselves, so i'm more than happy to stand corrected. I havent used BitTorrent in a very long time, simply because i was endlessly frustrated waiting for peers to come online for many files so that i could see from them. Seems like a constant constraint to me. My experience with usenet has been quite the opposite. No dependency on peers, and no uploading of my own necessary. I understand that BTs error-checking may very well be good. I dont have any personal experience of it., but so far as extracting the files and combining them and whatnot is concerned there are many clients available today that automate the whole process upon presenting a single NZB file. Anyway, this is just my limited experience, and maybe i'll begin to like BitTorrent again one day. PS. Using binaries from usenet, i also have the option of simultaneous connections (20+) as well SSL and header caching.
  - xiongchiamiov 16y ago
    You have to connect to someone to download stuff. The protocol doesn't change that.

mseebach 16y ago

All the techs you're mentioning are workarounds for downloading large files from usenet, a protocol mindnumbingly inappropriate for that task. BitTorrent has errorchecking, and it's very good (SHA-1 hashed of each chunk, sized 32k-4m). RARs error-checking is geared towards fixing permanently damaged files, because re-getting a broken chuck was infeasible. Re-downloading up to 4mb is not an issue in this day and age, if it is ever necessary - which it's usually not. BT also supports multiple files, no need to deal with RARs or ZIPs or whatever. And what's the deal with full speed? The structure of the data being downloaded has zero bearing on the speed in BT. I have yet to come across a well-seeded torrent that couldn't max out whatever bandwidth I threw at it.

omh 16y ago

I'm not sure if you're kidding, but why would you prefer NZB/RAR/PARs over bittorrent? Bittorrent has basic hash checking, will re-download as needed from peers and most usefully you don't have to extract anything afterwards.

krmmalik 16y ago
I'm certainly not kidding, but nor am i technically adept as your goodselves, so i'm more than happy to stand corrected. I havent used BitTorrent in a very long time, simply because i was endlessly frustrated waiting for peers to come online for many files so that i could see from them. Seems like a constant constraint to me. My experience with usenet has been quite the opposite. No dependency on peers, and no uploading of my own necessary. I understand that BTs error-checking may very well be good. I dont have any personal experience of it., but so far as extracting the files and combining them and whatnot is concerned there are many clients available today that automate the whole process upon presenting a single NZB file. Anyway, this is just my limited experience, and maybe i'll begin to like BitTorrent again one day. PS. Using binaries from usenet, i also have the option of simultaneous connections (20+) as well SSL and header caching.
- xiongchiamiov 16y ago
  You have to connect to someone to download stuff. The protocol doesn't change that.