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I also always wondered why is there no option to delete submissions and comments? That is an awfully exposing experience IMO.

by gabept 8y ago

Mononokay 8y ago
You have the opportunity during the first two hours of them being submitted, unless there's a response to them, if I remember correctly. Being exposing is a bit of a benefit for HN, in that it's a very good way to serve as a snapshot of culture at any given time. People can't just whitewash their histories or wrong actions on HN.
- xg15 8y ago
  The proponents of the EU's right to be forgotten would like to have a word about that.
  - andybak 8y ago
    HN doesn't enforce real names so it's rather different.
    - ocdtrekkie 8y ago
      From a legal standpoint, I don't think it makes a lot of difference. Especially since unless you are specifically trying to make a throwaway, figuring out who you are is trivial, especially if you use a chunk of your RL name in your username. Or in my case, if your username is commonly identifiable as you and tied to your RL name on other sites. I don't think anything about Right To Be Forgotten leaves it to the individual's responsibility to mask their identity.
      - Mononokay 8y ago
        From a legal standpoint, HN doesn't sell products, use user data for profit, or operate in the EU. Both it and YC have made it rather clear they don't want to touch the EU. Complying with GDPR would basically be an act of goodwill more than anything, and even that's debatable.
        nl 8y ago
        Both it and YC have made it rather clear they don't want to touch the EU. Not sure where you are getting that. YC have funded a lot of EU companies, and some partners are from the EU. YC certainly has revenue (from investors). HN isn't some separate legal entity - it's right there in the domain name.
        Mononokay 8y ago
        They require every founder to come to the US and register as a US company. That's not particularly touching it.
        xg15 8y ago
        Unless they IP ban the whole of the EU, they will still be subject to the GDPR once any EU citizen accesses their site. (Which, agreeing with AmericanChopper, is a purely theoretical thing - until the moment where YC wants to conduct any kind of business in the EU)
        icebraining 8y ago
        Simply being accessible from the EU does not automatically mean the GDPR applies to a site. See Recital 23: https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/ https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/
        xg15 8y ago
        Ah, that's a fair point, I didn't see that.
        nl 8y ago
        “Not touching the EU” is a meaningless phrase. If they raise money from any limited partners in the EU it’s pretty easy to make a case they have an EU business. The physical location is irrelevant - that’s the whole point of the GDPR.
        8y ago

I also always wondered why is there no option to delete submissions and comments? That is an awfully exposing experience IMO.

by gabept 8y ago

I also always wondered why is there no option to delete submissions and comments? That is an awfully exposing experience IMO.

Mononokay 8y ago

You have the opportunity during the first two hours of them being submitted, unless there's a response to them, if I remember correctly. Being exposing is a bit of a benefit for HN, in that it's a very good way to serve as a snapshot of culture at any given time. People can't just whitewash their histories or wrong actions on HN.

xg15 8y ago
The proponents of the EU's right to be forgotten would like to have a word about that.
- andybak 8y ago
  HN doesn't enforce real names so it's rather different.
  - ocdtrekkie 8y ago
    From a legal standpoint, I don't think it makes a lot of difference. Especially since unless you are specifically trying to make a throwaway, figuring out who you are is trivial, especially if you use a chunk of your RL name in your username. Or in my case, if your username is commonly identifiable as you and tied to your RL name on other sites. I don't think anything about Right To Be Forgotten leaves it to the individual's responsibility to mask their identity.
    - Mononokay 8y ago
      From a legal standpoint, HN doesn't sell products, use user data for profit, or operate in the EU. Both it and YC have made it rather clear they don't want to touch the EU. Complying with GDPR would basically be an act of goodwill more than anything, and even that's debatable.
      - nl 8y ago
        Both it and YC have made it rather clear they don't want to touch the EU. Not sure where you are getting that. YC have funded a lot of EU companies, and some partners are from the EU. YC certainly has revenue (from investors). HN isn't some separate legal entity - it's right there in the domain name.
        Mononokay 8y ago
        They require every founder to come to the US and register as a US company. That's not particularly touching it.
        xg15 8y ago
        Unless they IP ban the whole of the EU, they will still be subject to the GDPR once any EU citizen accesses their site. (Which, agreeing with AmericanChopper, is a purely theoretical thing - until the moment where YC wants to conduct any kind of business in the EU)
        icebraining 8y ago
        Simply being accessible from the EU does not automatically mean the GDPR applies to a site. See Recital 23: https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/ https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/
        xg15 8y ago
        Ah, that's a fair point, I didn't see that.
        nl 8y ago
        “Not touching the EU” is a meaningless phrase. If they raise money from any limited partners in the EU it’s pretty easy to make a case they have an EU business. The physical location is irrelevant - that’s the whole point of the GDPR.
      - 8y ago