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Sometimes 1 mile, sometimes 20. Or I might want to visit friends, who don't have a charger and live 50 miles away.
by Fins 9y ago
Sometimes 1 mile, sometimes 20. Or I might want to visit friends, who don't have a charger and live 50 miles away.
- mikeash 9y agoSounds fine. With a Model 3 LR, you could have a 100 mile commute each way, do 20 miles for errands, then visit your friend 50 miles away and return home before recharging. And I’m pretty sure 100 mile commutes are highly unusual.
- Fins 9y agoYou'd be surprised how far people who do not live in the tech bubble might commute.
- mikeash 9y agoThe average commute is 25 minutes. Only 2.2 million Americans commute over 50 miles.
- Fins 9y agoThat's already 2.2 million people, not an insignificant market.
- mikeash 9y agoI started out talking about “typical driving habits,” and 50 miles is still just fine in a decent EV.
- Fins 9y ago2.2 million people is typical enough, I'd say... And it is fine, as long as you actually have somewhere to charge. Where I live (and that's SV, not exactly boondocks) nearest charging station would be 15-20 minutes walking, each way. Costs more than just using gas, too. People commuting 50+ miles would likely have even tougher time finding a nice charger, unless they have their own home and can charge at home EV rate.
- mikeash 9y agoOh come on. The US workforce is over 160 million people. 2.2 million out of that is “typical”?
- Fins 9y agoIt's... over 2 million people/vehicles. That's more than population of some countries.
- mikeash 9y agoSo? “Typical” has nothing to do with how the absolute number compares to other countries. Do your not know what the word means, or are you just being extremely obtuse?
- Fins 9y agoSo, you're the one talking about "typical". I am pointing out that there is a rather significant market where current EVs are not workable (FCV would be, if they were reasonably priced, though). And that market really is larger than just people with long commutes. My commute is short enough, but I would end up paying more to charge than I pay for gas, and spending an 30-40 minutes each day just getting to where the car is.