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Honestly, probably just best for the club to shut down and reform as a Venturing Crew. Same concept, much more independence, and you get access to the propertie

by metei 8y ago

Honestly, probably just best for the club to shut down and reform as a Venturing Crew. Same concept, much more independence, and you get access to the properties and resources that Scouting International and the Boy Scouts of America both offer. I've yet to run into any issues going on trips as a gay couple in crew, its solidly not bad. Much more of a collegiate atmosphere than Boy Scouts too, and no uniform requirements or competitions either!

wlesieutre 8y ago
There’s at least one Venturing Crew in the area already (https://www.facebook.com/Venturing21/ https://www.facebook.com/Venturing21/) and I’m sure Venturing is a fine option, but it’s ridiculous that they would need to go that avenue. I’m also not sure what equipment has been purchased over the years, but reforming as an unassociated group would mean losing that. Also their ability to reserve rooms on campus for meetings, have a table at the “Involvement Fair” where incoming students can scope out all the clubs, no office space or storage in the student union building (not sure if PSOC has this or not, but many clubs do), etc. Given what PSU is demanding here maybe BSA would be a more useful parent organization, I just can’t believe they even need to consider it. Going hiking in central PA is not a complicated endeavor. You can drive 15 minutes off of campus and you’re out in the woods with poor cell coverage, that’s just how things are.
- wlesieutre 8y ago
  Venturing is also age capped 14-21 which would potentially block people in their senior year or anyone who’s going to college later in life. Maybe better to be unaffiliated and more inclusive.
avhon1 8y ago
"Venturing is an inclusive program through the Boy Scouts of America for males and females aged 14-21 (or 13 and completed the 8th grade)." [0] A Venture crew would not be accessible to many juniors, most seniors, or (almost) any graduate students. [0] http://www.venturing.org/learn-more.html http://www.venturing.org/learn-more.html
- skissane 8y ago
  Scouts Australia runs a program called "Rovers" for 18–25 year olds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovers_(Australia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovers_(Australia) Maybe there is no equivalent in US Scouting.
  - avhon1 8y ago
    The Boy Scouts of America offers 3 coed programs for teens/young adults (in addition to its well-known "Scouts" program): * Venture Scouting (aged 14-21), * Exploring (aged 10-20) [0], * and Sea Scouting (aged 14-20) [1] However, there are plenty of university students that would be too old to take advantage of programs that had an upper age limit of 25. [0] https://www.exploring.org/about-us/ https://www.exploring.org/about-us/ [1] http://join.seascout.org/join/ http://join.seascout.org/join/

by metei 8y ago

wlesieutre 8y ago

There’s at least one Venturing Crew in the area already (https://www.facebook.com/Venturing21/ https://www.facebook.com/Venturing21/) and I’m sure Venturing is a fine option, but it’s ridiculous that they would need to go that avenue. I’m also not sure what equipment has been purchased over the years, but reforming as an unassociated group would mean losing that. Also their ability to reserve rooms on campus for meetings, have a table at the “Involvement Fair” where incoming students can scope out all the clubs, no office space or storage in the student union building (not sure if PSOC has this or not, but many clubs do), etc. Given what PSU is demanding here maybe BSA would be a more useful parent organization, I just can’t believe they even need to consider it. Going hiking in central PA is not a complicated endeavor. You can drive 15 minutes off of campus and you’re out in the woods with poor cell coverage, that’s just how things are.

wlesieutre 8y ago
Venturing is also age capped 14-21 which would potentially block people in their senior year or anyone who’s going to college later in life. Maybe better to be unaffiliated and more inclusive.

avhon1 8y ago

"Venturing is an inclusive program through the Boy Scouts of America for males and females aged 14-21 (or 13 and completed the 8th grade)." [0] A Venture crew would not be accessible to many juniors, most seniors, or (almost) any graduate students. [0] http://www.venturing.org/learn-more.html http://www.venturing.org/learn-more.html

skissane 8y ago
Scouts Australia runs a program called "Rovers" for 18–25 year olds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovers_(Australia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovers_(Australia) Maybe there is no equivalent in US Scouting.
- avhon1 8y ago
  The Boy Scouts of America offers 3 coed programs for teens/young adults (in addition to its well-known "Scouts" program): * Venture Scouting (aged 14-21), * Exploring (aged 10-20) [0], * and Sea Scouting (aged 14-20) [1] However, there are plenty of university students that would be too old to take advantage of programs that had an upper age limit of 25. [0] https://www.exploring.org/about-us/ https://www.exploring.org/about-us/ [1] http://join.seascout.org/join/ http://join.seascout.org/join/