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I’ve heard a lot of things about California transplants (being one myself), but being far right is one I haven’t yet heard.

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jonathankoren 9y ago
California is a big a diverse place, and a lot more reflective of America than places that typically talk about how they’re “Real America.”
sin7 9y ago
Horseshoe theory in action.
StudentStuff 9y ago
Most of the Californians who went to Oregon in the 1980s lobbied for right wing policies in the new places they moved to (which created a number of issues), hence the fear of those disillusioned with California leaving and bringing destructive political views with them that could seriously harm wherever they move. Edit: Downvoting me doesn't make the long term effects of what ex-Californians did to Eastern Oregon go away, small towns in Eastern Oregon are still hamstrung by policies and decisions implemented in that era by ex-Californians.
Semirhage 9y ago
California is massive, and it isn’t all SF and LA. You’d think that electing Schwarzenegger governor would have been a hint as to some political leanings! California has a sizeable rural community, which is typical Right wing. http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kfsn/images/cms/automation/images/111314-kfsn-blog-red-blue-map-ic.jpg http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kfsn/images/cms/automatio...
- ebikelaw 9y ago
  Acres don't vote, thankfully :-) 74% of California's delegation - 39 of 53 - are Democrats.
  - StudentStuff 9y ago
    Those angry rural people do leave California in droves though, to Oregon and Washington in the past. They've dealt significant damage to our local politics in the past, the fear of Californians is well founded. Those that like California are less apt to leave in large numbers, as compared to those on the margins of politics/the economy (eg: in stable or shrinking industries, with different political beliefs).
- taurath 9y ago
  I grew up in the red state part - I haven’t seen the mass exodus though, people have tended to stick to their towns. Mostly people fleeing the coastal cities.
ebikelaw 9y ago
California is diverse and populous. There are enough far right voters in California that if they were to migrate en masse they would totally overwhelm their destination. They're also more likely to migrate, being the most irked by California's current one-party government. As a personal anecdote I happen to know a small businessman who moved from Fremont, California, to Oregon because those gosh darn overbearing regulators in Fremont wanted his employees to stop being severely injured. That's your basic right-wing migrant in a nutshell. But anyway, just remember that population is very important. You might think New York is liberal but there are more Trump voters in New York City than there are total voters in Alabama.
- hueving 9y ago
  >because those gosh darn overbearing regulators in Fremont wanted his employees to stop being severely injured. That's your basic right-wing migrant in a nutshell. Lazy strawman
- whack 9y ago
  > there are more Trump voters in New York City than there are total voters in Alabama. I agree with your general point, but the above seems grossly inaccurate. NYC had ~500k Trump voters, whereas Alabama had 1.3M Trump voters and ~2M voters in total. https://www.amny.com/news/elections/nyc-voter-turnout-was-55-98-percent-board-of-elections-says-1.12594476 https://www.amny.com/news/elections/nyc-voter-turnout-was-55... https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/numbers/clinton-trump-president-vice-president-every-neighborhood-map-election-results-voting-general-primary-nyc/ https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/numbers/clinton-trump-presi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Alabama,_2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_ele...
  - ebikelaw 9y ago
    Yup you are right. I did not mean to say "New York City" in the second case, I meant to just say "New York" the state, in which 2.8M people voted for Trump.
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s73v3r_ 9y ago
I have. One contingency of those leaving are those upset at the liberal politics of the state. So they head elsewhere, and influence local politics in a conservative manner. I remember reading about another town in Idaho where that was happening (a lakeside town?)

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jonathankoren 9y ago

California is a big a diverse place, and a lot more reflective of America than places that typically talk about how they’re “Real America.”

sin7 9y ago

Horseshoe theory in action.

StudentStuff 9y ago

Most of the Californians who went to Oregon in the 1980s lobbied for right wing policies in the new places they moved to (which created a number of issues), hence the fear of those disillusioned with California leaving and bringing destructive political views with them that could seriously harm wherever they move. Edit: Downvoting me doesn't make the long term effects of what ex-Californians did to Eastern Oregon go away, small towns in Eastern Oregon are still hamstrung by policies and decisions implemented in that era by ex-Californians.

Semirhage 9y ago

California is massive, and it isn’t all SF and LA. You’d think that electing Schwarzenegger governor would have been a hint as to some political leanings! California has a sizeable rural community, which is typical Right wing. http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kfsn/images/cms/automation/images/111314-kfsn-blog-red-blue-map-ic.jpg http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kfsn/images/cms/automatio...

ebikelaw 9y ago
Acres don't vote, thankfully :-) 74% of California's delegation - 39 of 53 - are Democrats.
- StudentStuff 9y ago
  Those angry rural people do leave California in droves though, to Oregon and Washington in the past. They've dealt significant damage to our local politics in the past, the fear of Californians is well founded. Those that like California are less apt to leave in large numbers, as compared to those on the margins of politics/the economy (eg: in stable or shrinking industries, with different political beliefs).
taurath 9y ago
I grew up in the red state part - I haven’t seen the mass exodus though, people have tended to stick to their towns. Mostly people fleeing the coastal cities.

ebikelaw 9y ago

California is diverse and populous. There are enough far right voters in California that if they were to migrate en masse they would totally overwhelm their destination. They're also more likely to migrate, being the most irked by California's current one-party government. As a personal anecdote I happen to know a small businessman who moved from Fremont, California, to Oregon because those gosh darn overbearing regulators in Fremont wanted his employees to stop being severely injured. That's your basic right-wing migrant in a nutshell. But anyway, just remember that population is very important. You might think New York is liberal but there are more Trump voters in New York City than there are total voters in Alabama.

hueving 9y ago
>because those gosh darn overbearing regulators in Fremont wanted his employees to stop being severely injured. That's your basic right-wing migrant in a nutshell. Lazy strawman
whack 9y ago
> there are more Trump voters in New York City than there are total voters in Alabama. I agree with your general point, but the above seems grossly inaccurate. NYC had ~500k Trump voters, whereas Alabama had 1.3M Trump voters and ~2M voters in total. https://www.amny.com/news/elections/nyc-voter-turnout-was-55-98-percent-board-of-elections-says-1.12594476 https://www.amny.com/news/elections/nyc-voter-turnout-was-55... https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/numbers/clinton-trump-president-vice-president-every-neighborhood-map-election-results-voting-general-primary-nyc/ https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/numbers/clinton-trump-presi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Alabama,_2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_ele...
- ebikelaw 9y ago
  Yup you are right. I did not mean to say "New York City" in the second case, I meant to just say "New York" the state, in which 2.8M people voted for Trump.
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s73v3r_ 9y ago

I have. One contingency of those leaving are those upset at the liberal politics of the state. So they head elsewhere, and influence local politics in a conservative manner. I remember reading about another town in Idaho where that was happening (a lakeside town?)