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Google knows far more about me than Facebook. But their product is not premised on my genuine identity, or the sharing of my social graph with apps. Google has

Google knows far more about me than Facebook. But their product is not premised on my genuine identity, or the sharing of my social graph with apps. Google has been pretty good at preserving the illusion of "anonymous browsing".

craftyguy 9y ago
> their product is not premised on my genuine identity Their product to you may not be, but their primary revenue stream sure is based on the premise of knowing your genuine identity (including habits.)
- jacksmith21006 9y ago
  Not really. Google does search ads based on what you are searching at that time. Plus Google does ads with a call back so no data leaves Google. The byproduct is ad blockers work by blocking the call back.
  - craftyguy 9y ago
    They most definitely tailor ads to your personal data.
    - jacksmith21006 9y ago
      Target ads but do not sell personal data and have thought out a nice architecture so your data stays at Google. They use a call back for the ad so a third party site does not get any data. Also why ad blockers work.
      - craftyguy 9y ago
        I never said they sold your personal data, I know they don't. But they still collect vast amounts of it that they use against you (advertising), and make available to governments if requested/ordered.
        jacksmith21006 9y ago
        I prefer the gov has to go through a legal process versus just giving all your data over to the government. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy-betrayal-for-chinese-icloud-users/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy... Campaign targets Apple over privacy betrayal for Chinese iCloud ...
berg01 9y ago
After the Damore ousting I've been doing all semi-risky searches on Bing. I treat Google as the safe-for-work search engine. I guess I had this epiphany - before Damore I trusted them with everything. Post Damore, I saw that Google was run by a new kind of explicitly political people. That's scary. (That is to say: I now only trust Google with pedestrian queries.)

craftyguy 9y ago

> their product is not premised on my genuine identity Their product to you may not be, but their primary revenue stream sure is based on the premise of knowing your genuine identity (including habits.)

jacksmith21006 9y ago
Not really. Google does search ads based on what you are searching at that time. Plus Google does ads with a call back so no data leaves Google. The byproduct is ad blockers work by blocking the call back.
- craftyguy 9y ago
  They most definitely tailor ads to your personal data.
  - jacksmith21006 9y ago
    Target ads but do not sell personal data and have thought out a nice architecture so your data stays at Google. They use a call back for the ad so a third party site does not get any data. Also why ad blockers work.
    - craftyguy 9y ago
      I never said they sold your personal data, I know they don't. But they still collect vast amounts of it that they use against you (advertising), and make available to governments if requested/ordered.
      - jacksmith21006 9y ago
        I prefer the gov has to go through a legal process versus just giving all your data over to the government. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy-betrayal-for-chinese-icloud-users/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/apple-privacy... Campaign targets Apple over privacy betrayal for Chinese iCloud ...

berg01 9y ago

After the Damore ousting I've been doing all semi-risky searches on Bing. I treat Google as the safe-for-work search engine. I guess I had this epiphany - before Damore I trusted them with everything. Post Damore, I saw that Google was run by a new kind of explicitly political people. That's scary. (That is to say: I now only trust Google with pedestrian queries.)