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And that's where the complexity comes in. Because it's 3 protocols, one of which is backwards to the other, and Google disallows other manufacturers from using

And that's where the complexity comes in. Because it's 3 protocols, one of which is backwards to the other, and Google disallows other manufacturers from using one of these 3 protocols. Once upon a time, you could use the Netflix app on a Kindle to stream to a FireTV or a Chromecast, or the Netflix app from Android to stream to Chromecast or FireTV. Google has been fucking with the protocols to prevent that for a while, and it caused lots of trouble for open source devs (and Amazon).

scarface74 9y ago
So if you are in the Apple ecosystem. You get an AppleTV and you get the best support for all of the popular services. Either using the native apps or Airplay. If you are in the Android ecosystem, you get a device like the Nvidia Shield that does support Chromecast and Amazon Prime and native apps. On top of that, you get a stand-alone Plex Server that supports transcoding. If you don’t care about Chromecast support and you own an Android device and you want something cheap, get something on the Roku platform and you get most of the same benefits of a Chromecast and every streaming platform supports the Roku. So why fool with either the Amazon Fire Stick or Chromecast? When the 9 year old computer that I’m using as a Plex server gives out on me, I’m thinking about just getting a Shield to replace it.
- kuschku 9y ago
  > So why fool with either the Amazon Fire Stick or Chromecast? Because I want to receive streams with my own software, and I want to stream from all kinds of devices. Having many competing standards sucks.
  - scarface74 9y ago
    If you want to stream "from all kinds of devices", why getba ChromeCast instead of an Android based Nvidia Shield? It gives you more flexibility.
    - kuschku 9y ago
      Because I want the stream receiver to be my own software. A common use case is that I play a game and want to stream it, but also want to have music in background, and control that from my phone. So currently I use YouTube TV mode in a browser elemnent integrated into OBS as audio-only stream, with the youtube app’s cast mode to control it. But obviously I’d like to make this nicer. And I also want to stream music to my raspberry pi, so it can play it on my sound system (which is dumb speakers with custom amp and setup)
      - scarface74 9y ago
        I’m still not getting it. If the Chromecast can support your use case, how could the Nvidia Shield - a more flexible Android based device that also supports the same protocol, not support your use case?
        kuschku 9y ago
        Chromecast, the device, can not. Chromecast, the protocol, could – if Google wasn’t banning developers from using it.

scarface74 9y ago

So if you are in the Apple ecosystem. You get an AppleTV and you get the best support for all of the popular services. Either using the native apps or Airplay. If you are in the Android ecosystem, you get a device like the Nvidia Shield that does support Chromecast and Amazon Prime and native apps. On top of that, you get a stand-alone Plex Server that supports transcoding. If you don’t care about Chromecast support and you own an Android device and you want something cheap, get something on the Roku platform and you get most of the same benefits of a Chromecast and every streaming platform supports the Roku. So why fool with either the Amazon Fire Stick or Chromecast? When the 9 year old computer that I’m using as a Plex server gives out on me, I’m thinking about just getting a Shield to replace it.

kuschku 9y ago
> So why fool with either the Amazon Fire Stick or Chromecast? Because I want to receive streams with my own software, and I want to stream from all kinds of devices. Having many competing standards sucks.
- scarface74 9y ago
  If you want to stream "from all kinds of devices", why getba ChromeCast instead of an Android based Nvidia Shield? It gives you more flexibility.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    Because I want the stream receiver to be my own software. A common use case is that I play a game and want to stream it, but also want to have music in background, and control that from my phone. So currently I use YouTube TV mode in a browser elemnent integrated into OBS as audio-only stream, with the youtube app’s cast mode to control it. But obviously I’d like to make this nicer. And I also want to stream music to my raspberry pi, so it can play it on my sound system (which is dumb speakers with custom amp and setup)
    - scarface74 9y ago
      I’m still not getting it. If the Chromecast can support your use case, how could the Nvidia Shield - a more flexible Android based device that also supports the same protocol, not support your use case?
      - kuschku 9y ago
        Chromecast, the device, can not. Chromecast, the protocol, could – if Google wasn’t banning developers from using it.