This comes up once every few years. The confusion comes from the fact that java syntactically hides the pointer for objects, which feel kind of like structs.

This comes up once every few years. The confusion comes from the fact that java syntactically hides the pointer for objects, which feel kind of like structs. It doesn't matter too much IMO. Most people intuitively understand how object references work in modern programming languages, and these discussions don't add a lot to their knowledge.