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Screw acceptance ratios Tell me how many googles, facebooks have been started by IIT grads. That number ought to count for something right

tathougies 9y ago
Sun Microsystems was started by an IIT grad (Vinod Khosla), and is responsible for the most popular software platform in the world. Without it, we wouldn't have a lot of the software we do today. I mean... I'm really not a fan of Java, but you'd be hard-pressed to deny its impact on computing. Arguably, Sun Microsystems has had a much larger impact than facebook or google, which are mainly notable for their money making ability rather than their technical prowess. In comparison to Java, Google's attempt at programming languages (Go, for example) are exceptionally pathetic. Coming from someone who thinks Java is awfully engineered, that's really saying something.
- thewhitetulip 9y ago
  I can give countless such examples about Harvard stanford. You can give me one and that too not a unicorn. Can't you see my point? Sun was bought by Oracle because of Java, so Khosla basically developed a language which Oracle bought. I am not belittling the achivements of Khosla, but other institutes outside India have achieved far greater than what Indian institutes can hope to attain you can't compare Go and Java. Both languages have widely different. Java was meant to writing softwares for systems like fridges Go was meant to write softwares by a large team and exploit parallel processing architecture of modern CPUSs And trust me, Go is much better when it comes to writing backends and web services Java is good for enterprise software
  - tathougies 9y ago
    Actually, the list is quite extensive. I called out Sun mainly because it is a class above Google and Facebook. Also, Sun contributed significantly more than just Java: Solaris (one of the first widely used kernels that had containers), SPARC, VirtualBox, OpenOffice, ZFS. I think it's really sad that people have forgotten the contributions of the first-generation of large computer companies. I rank Sun Microsystems with the likes of Microsoft and Apple. Also, other than Google or Facebook, I can't mention any company of that size founded by Harvard or Stanford Alums (in the computation industry at least). Can you? Other examples BTW are Cirrus Logic, Zoho, Infosys, etc.
    - thewhitetulip 9y ago
      https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/unicorn-universities-where-most-billion-dollar-company-founders-went-to-school.html https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/unicorn-universities-where-mos... The top school on the list, Stanford University, claims 51 unicorn founders as alumni while runner-up Harvard University has 37. Rounding out the top three is the University of California with 18. This is the truth but I can just tel you the truth, I can't make you believe it.
      - tathougies 9y ago
        I'm not sure what there is to believe. Obviously, Stanford and Harvard are at the top of the list when it comes to founders. However, you claimed that IIT has never produced a company the likes of Facebook or Google. I pointed out a few companies that are in the same league. Moreover, the source you linked to points out that IIT is the fourth highest unicorn founder producer. This is quite notable, given that it's an institute in a relatively poor country. It's more notable given that Indian graduates are at a disadvantage when competing in the united states as well, due to extra regulation on foreign companies or the overhead of immigration. I'm not sure what point you were trying to prove with your graph. I never claimed that IIT produced more superstars than Harvard or Stanford, only that it does produce some. You said: > Tell me how many googles, facebooks have been started by IIT grads. The number is 18, according to your data, which makes it #4 in the world, which is a very respectable position.

tathougies 9y ago

Sun Microsystems was started by an IIT grad (Vinod Khosla), and is responsible for the most popular software platform in the world. Without it, we wouldn't have a lot of the software we do today. I mean... I'm really not a fan of Java, but you'd be hard-pressed to deny its impact on computing. Arguably, Sun Microsystems has had a much larger impact than facebook or google, which are mainly notable for their money making ability rather than their technical prowess. In comparison to Java, Google's attempt at programming languages (Go, for example) are exceptionally pathetic. Coming from someone who thinks Java is awfully engineered, that's really saying something.

thewhitetulip 9y ago
I can give countless such examples about Harvard stanford. You can give me one and that too not a unicorn. Can't you see my point? Sun was bought by Oracle because of Java, so Khosla basically developed a language which Oracle bought. I am not belittling the achivements of Khosla, but other institutes outside India have achieved far greater than what Indian institutes can hope to attain you can't compare Go and Java. Both languages have widely different. Java was meant to writing softwares for systems like fridges Go was meant to write softwares by a large team and exploit parallel processing architecture of modern CPUSs And trust me, Go is much better when it comes to writing backends and web services Java is good for enterprise software
- tathougies 9y ago
  Actually, the list is quite extensive. I called out Sun mainly because it is a class above Google and Facebook. Also, Sun contributed significantly more than just Java: Solaris (one of the first widely used kernels that had containers), SPARC, VirtualBox, OpenOffice, ZFS. I think it's really sad that people have forgotten the contributions of the first-generation of large computer companies. I rank Sun Microsystems with the likes of Microsoft and Apple. Also, other than Google or Facebook, I can't mention any company of that size founded by Harvard or Stanford Alums (in the computation industry at least). Can you? Other examples BTW are Cirrus Logic, Zoho, Infosys, etc.
  - thewhitetulip 9y ago
    https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/unicorn-universities-where-most-billion-dollar-company-founders-went-to-school.html https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/unicorn-universities-where-mos... The top school on the list, Stanford University, claims 51 unicorn founders as alumni while runner-up Harvard University has 37. Rounding out the top three is the University of California with 18. This is the truth but I can just tel you the truth, I can't make you believe it.
    - tathougies 9y ago
      I'm not sure what there is to believe. Obviously, Stanford and Harvard are at the top of the list when it comes to founders. However, you claimed that IIT has never produced a company the likes of Facebook or Google. I pointed out a few companies that are in the same league. Moreover, the source you linked to points out that IIT is the fourth highest unicorn founder producer. This is quite notable, given that it's an institute in a relatively poor country. It's more notable given that Indian graduates are at a disadvantage when competing in the united states as well, due to extra regulation on foreign companies or the overhead of immigration. I'm not sure what point you were trying to prove with your graph. I never claimed that IIT produced more superstars than Harvard or Stanford, only that it does produce some. You said: > Tell me how many googles, facebooks have been started by IIT grads. The number is 18, according to your data, which makes it #4 in the world, which is a very respectable position.