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how are their trackpads nowadays? I take it Lenovo’s screens are now at least on par with MBP, not just in resolution but color reproduction, contrast, viewing

how are their trackpads nowadays? I take it Lenovo’s screens are now at least on par with MBP, not just in resolution but color reproduction, contrast, viewing angle, brightness? how about their hinges - still good like in the IBM thinkpad days? serviceability? this article is unfortunately very light on information and seems to be written by a thinkpad fanboy (highlighting the knob which I always found strange - why would you want that over a thumb on a very precise touchpad?).

jpalomaki 9y ago
I don't think it's so easy to get Thinkpad with stunning screen. X1 models have had more options, but it feels the other lineup is built with corporate bean counter in mind. There are nice things in some models like 32GB mem, dual swappable battery, built in LTE and warranty with on-site repairs. On the other hand there's no direct replacement for 15" MacBook Pro. No such slim machine with more powerful CPU and 15" great screen.
- habitue 9y ago
  The X1 Yoga is what you're looking for. Has a 4K OLED touchscreen that looks amazing
  - m_mueller 9y ago
    Again, how about touchpad? On par with Surface Book? In that case I could live with it I think. But only on Linux, the Windows 10 settings mess still gives me headaches.
  - jpalomaki 9y ago
    There are nice features in the various Thinkpad laptops, problem is that you would need to get few machines to have them all. For example T480 gives you dual battery and 32GB. The X1 lineup gives the nice screens. Head to the P series and you get powerful CPU. I can understand that it's not possible to put all those in a slim machine such as X1, but I don't see technical reasons why you could not have high-end screens for example in the T4x0(p) or T5x0 machines. Lenovo is missing a proper MacBook Pro 15" replacement. For example Dell is at least trying with XPS 15 (i9, probably 32GB max etc). Lenovo has not yet introduced their i9 machines. There's some rumors about new P model coming out. Hopefully this is something similar and not just a new revision of their workstation class laptops.
pasbesoin 9y ago
I'm someone who actually needs to type on my laptop. Including when I'm not at a "height/posture-optimized workspace". I hear and see so much attention focused on the trackpad. Well, along with these newer trackpads came very large palm rests. And the front edges of those -- often no longer even beveled -- reach far enough to press against my wrists. Especially when I need to work at "random table/desk". Makes the darned thing unusable, for me. P.S. I should add that a couple of decades working on crappy corporate furniture didn't help. My wrists no longer want to put up with such irritants.
- m_mueller 9y ago
  just to clarify, the keyboard is just as important to me, but lenovo has always had ones that are at least as good as Apple‘s - and the latst MBP ones are not hard to beat. That‘s why my comment focused on trackpad instead, which IMO always was a weak point of Lenovo. All I‘d like to know is if they are comparable to Surface Book, then I‘m fine.
  - pasbesoin 9y ago
    That makes sense. I occasionally pipe up about these "giant" palm rests, and how they impact a user's wrists, basically to agitate for some designs that don't do this. I got some positive feedback when I did so re the T25 design, and while I don't yet have a T25 (that cost, combined with an expensive winter for me), I gather my concern was at least considered at some level. I'd better grab a T25 before they dry up. I wish Lenovo would keep one T25-type model for each generation, going forward.

jpalomaki 9y ago

I don't think it's so easy to get Thinkpad with stunning screen. X1 models have had more options, but it feels the other lineup is built with corporate bean counter in mind. There are nice things in some models like 32GB mem, dual swappable battery, built in LTE and warranty with on-site repairs. On the other hand there's no direct replacement for 15" MacBook Pro. No such slim machine with more powerful CPU and 15" great screen.

habitue 9y ago
The X1 Yoga is what you're looking for. Has a 4K OLED touchscreen that looks amazing
- m_mueller 9y ago
  Again, how about touchpad? On par with Surface Book? In that case I could live with it I think. But only on Linux, the Windows 10 settings mess still gives me headaches.
- jpalomaki 9y ago
  There are nice features in the various Thinkpad laptops, problem is that you would need to get few machines to have them all. For example T480 gives you dual battery and 32GB. The X1 lineup gives the nice screens. Head to the P series and you get powerful CPU. I can understand that it's not possible to put all those in a slim machine such as X1, but I don't see technical reasons why you could not have high-end screens for example in the T4x0(p) or T5x0 machines. Lenovo is missing a proper MacBook Pro 15" replacement. For example Dell is at least trying with XPS 15 (i9, probably 32GB max etc). Lenovo has not yet introduced their i9 machines. There's some rumors about new P model coming out. Hopefully this is something similar and not just a new revision of their workstation class laptops.

pasbesoin 9y ago

I'm someone who actually needs to type on my laptop. Including when I'm not at a "height/posture-optimized workspace". I hear and see so much attention focused on the trackpad. Well, along with these newer trackpads came very large palm rests. And the front edges of those -- often no longer even beveled -- reach far enough to press against my wrists. Especially when I need to work at "random table/desk". Makes the darned thing unusable, for me. P.S. I should add that a couple of decades working on crappy corporate furniture didn't help. My wrists no longer want to put up with such irritants.

m_mueller 9y ago
just to clarify, the keyboard is just as important to me, but lenovo has always had ones that are at least as good as Apple‘s - and the latst MBP ones are not hard to beat. That‘s why my comment focused on trackpad instead, which IMO always was a weak point of Lenovo. All I‘d like to know is if they are comparable to Surface Book, then I‘m fine.
- pasbesoin 9y ago
  That makes sense. I occasionally pipe up about these "giant" palm rests, and how they impact a user's wrists, basically to agitate for some designs that don't do this. I got some positive feedback when I did so re the T25 design, and while I don't yet have a T25 (that cost, combined with an expensive winter for me), I gather my concern was at least considered at some level. I'd better grab a T25 before they dry up. I wish Lenovo would keep one T25-type model for each generation, going forward.