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The pay in Seattle for software developers is 100% more than in Toronto. Even second-tier US cities pay 50% more. If you're working in Toronto when you could be

The pay in Seattle for software developers is 100% more than in Toronto. Even second-tier US cities pay 50% more. If you're working in Toronto when you could be working in a US tech centre, I hope you have a good reason. Market Average Annual Tech Wage Software Engineer (USD) Vancouver, BC — $60,107 Toronto, ON — $62,365 Atlanta, GA — $92,380 Boston, MA — $103,979 Washington, DC — $108,330 New York, NY — $108,878 Seattle, WA — $113,906 Source: http://www.vancouvereconomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Vancouver-Amazon-HQ2-Proposal-Feb-2018.pdf http://www.vancouvereconomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/...

conanbatt 8y ago
There are plenty of ways in the which immigration makes the pay cut less problematic. 1) You have a deathtimer that if you dont get the paperwork in time, or the lottery, or whatever, you can be kicked out of the country. 2) You dont enjoy the same liberties as nationals 3) you dont qualify to multiple benefits that make financials tennable (i.e. medicare taxes, college subsidies, etc) 4) Up until recently, spouses of H1B workers could not work. That is somethign that was added in 2015, and that in this administration its been talked about removing, meaning 50k people lose their legal right to a job. 5) Inherent social issues of the popular cities. San Francisco and Seattle have very high homeless populations. So yes, there's plenty of reasons to take a pay cut, one way or the other.
digianarchist 8y ago
My good reason is my wife not being able to work on my TN visa. Really what muppet during the NAFTA negotiations thought this was a good idea?
- fatjokes 8y ago
  Why do you think it was a bug and not a feature? I.e., it is intentional as a disincentive for foreign workers.
  - digianarchist 8y ago
    Because visa agreements made before (H1-B) and after (E-3) this one, by Republicans no less, have included spouse's right to work.
s2g 8y ago
I'm curious about the variance as well. I'd guess Seattle is quite a bit higher.
sqnguyen 8y ago
For what it's worth, Toronto salaries have a pretty different statistic on hired.com: https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2018 https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2018 Speaking from personal experience, I've seen salaries ranging from 100-120k CAD with 4 years of experience. Rent price increases as of late seem to be affecting much of the costs as well. YMMV. Tax is comparable to California as well. It's not as lucrative as USA, but public schooling is very strong in Toronto.

conanbatt 8y ago

There are plenty of ways in the which immigration makes the pay cut less problematic. 1) You have a deathtimer that if you dont get the paperwork in time, or the lottery, or whatever, you can be kicked out of the country. 2) You dont enjoy the same liberties as nationals 3) you dont qualify to multiple benefits that make financials tennable (i.e. medicare taxes, college subsidies, etc) 4) Up until recently, spouses of H1B workers could not work. That is somethign that was added in 2015, and that in this administration its been talked about removing, meaning 50k people lose their legal right to a job. 5) Inherent social issues of the popular cities. San Francisco and Seattle have very high homeless populations. So yes, there's plenty of reasons to take a pay cut, one way or the other.

digianarchist 8y ago

My good reason is my wife not being able to work on my TN visa. Really what muppet during the NAFTA negotiations thought this was a good idea?

fatjokes 8y ago
Why do you think it was a bug and not a feature? I.e., it is intentional as a disincentive for foreign workers.
- digianarchist 8y ago
  Because visa agreements made before (H1-B) and after (E-3) this one, by Republicans no less, have included spouse's right to work.

s2g 8y ago

I'm curious about the variance as well. I'd guess Seattle is quite a bit higher.

sqnguyen 8y ago

For what it's worth, Toronto salaries have a pretty different statistic on hired.com: https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2018 https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2018 Speaking from personal experience, I've seen salaries ranging from 100-120k CAD with 4 years of experience. Rent price increases as of late seem to be affecting much of the costs as well. YMMV. Tax is comparable to California as well. It's not as lucrative as USA, but public schooling is very strong in Toronto.