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I think bad PR and vicious backlash from the consumers against foul play is a stronger deterrent than some one time fines.

TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago
It's arguable whether bad PR and vicious backlash are working, or happening. As evidence I present... well, here we are. Edit: added a word
- TAForObvReasons 9y ago
  When it did work, like when Bill O'Reilly was pushed out of Fox News, the PR and public outrage aligned with a large faction within the company. It's a lot easier to push out or target individual bad actors than to reform the whole corporate structure.
- akshat_h 9y ago
  I think there are no 'obvious' repercussions to the privacy and security issues that are affecting the general public. For example, lots of companies have been hacked(Target, Equifax), and AFAIK there hasn't been credit card fraud on massive scale that has been reported in the media. It kinda makes people think that media is over inflating the issue(which it lots of time does), and just not care. We have been hearing about how this data will be used to say deny loans etc. but nothing has happened. I mean even Snowden spying scandal just revealed the extensive spying. What exactly are the agencies doing with the data and how that negatively impacts me is not really clear for a general person. And I am speaking as somewhat tech literate person. Why exactly would an average person care? Giving up privacy has, I think, almost become 'normal'
webkike 9y ago
Why not both?
rocqua 9y ago
Yes, but the mechanism need not be "voting with your wallet". Instead, I put forward the mechanism "voting by voting". That is, such vicious backlash gets picked up by politicians, who act on it with regulation.
emilsedgh 9y ago
How do you out-PR Facebook which is the biggest PR machine, in the long run? The worst PR issue Facebook has in Zuckerburg. Worst case scenario, he steps away and they hire a new likable CEO with a higher EQ. That's exactly what Uber did.
RaleyField 9y ago
Nothing happened last 100 megabreaches, why would now be any different? The public doesn't care. Only media cares and only because Trump benefited.

TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago

It's arguable whether bad PR and vicious backlash are working, or happening. As evidence I present... well, here we are. Edit: added a word

TAForObvReasons 9y ago
When it did work, like when Bill O'Reilly was pushed out of Fox News, the PR and public outrage aligned with a large faction within the company. It's a lot easier to push out or target individual bad actors than to reform the whole corporate structure.
akshat_h 9y ago
I think there are no 'obvious' repercussions to the privacy and security issues that are affecting the general public. For example, lots of companies have been hacked(Target, Equifax), and AFAIK there hasn't been credit card fraud on massive scale that has been reported in the media. It kinda makes people think that media is over inflating the issue(which it lots of time does), and just not care. We have been hearing about how this data will be used to say deny loans etc. but nothing has happened. I mean even Snowden spying scandal just revealed the extensive spying. What exactly are the agencies doing with the data and how that negatively impacts me is not really clear for a general person. And I am speaking as somewhat tech literate person. Why exactly would an average person care? Giving up privacy has, I think, almost become 'normal'

webkike 9y ago

Why not both?

rocqua 9y ago

Yes, but the mechanism need not be "voting with your wallet". Instead, I put forward the mechanism "voting by voting". That is, such vicious backlash gets picked up by politicians, who act on it with regulation.

emilsedgh 9y ago

How do you out-PR Facebook which is the biggest PR machine, in the long run? The worst PR issue Facebook has in Zuckerburg. Worst case scenario, he steps away and they hire a new likable CEO with a higher EQ. That's exactly what Uber did.

RaleyField 9y ago

Nothing happened last 100 megabreaches, why would now be any different? The public doesn't care. Only media cares and only because Trump benefited.