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AMD and Intel Had a Baby and It's a Beast

25 points by x0054 8y ago

blacksmith_tb 8y ago
They seem to just be reaching reviewers finally[1]. Looks like a great machine, tiny footprint, enormous horsepower (comparatively). 1: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12572/the-intel-hades-canyon-nuc8i7hvk-review-kaby-lakeg-benchmarked https://www.anandtech.com/show/12572/the-intel-hades-canyon-...
ktosobcy 8y ago
4 pages?! It looks interesting, but I would love to see such device with pure AMD stuff
aphextron 8y ago
Link to the product spec: https://www.simplynuc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/SimplyNUCProductBrief-NUC8i7HVK.pdf https://www.simplynuc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/SimplyN... This thing sounds amazing at $999. I just wish I had any need to upgrade.
- WheelsAtLarge 8y ago
  That's the base unit. You need to add the OS, mem and who knows what else. Expect to pay $1500+
  - aphextron 8y ago
    >That's the base unit. You need to add the OS, mem and who knows what else. Expect to pay $1500+ It comes with 8GB and Linux is free. So it's more like $150 worth of DDR4 and you're set.
thepumpkin1979 8y ago
I can’t finish reading the article, it asks me to install an app.
walrus01 8y ago
$999 for something that can only handle 1080p at smooth framerates? Yes it's small, but you can build a mini-itx based motherboard system with either ryzen or 8th generation intel core i-whatever and a discrete $125 GPU that will probably run circles around it. 50-60 fps in doom at 1080p is not incredibly impressive, and that's for a single display. Now double that for two eye displays for VR and it'll fail to provide a smooth frame rate. The specs from Anandtech show it as $999 barebones and about $1615 of total components once RAM and SSD have been added. And it has a huge external power brick. Once you look at the size of the unit + power brick it's not much smaller than a cube shaped mini-itx case in terms of space occupied. For $1615, given two limitations (a) mini-itx case and motherboard and (b) use of discrete pci-express x16 3.0 nvidia GPU, i could build a system with significantly higher framerates in all tests.
- craftyguy 8y ago
  For $1615 you could easily build a mini-ITX system with an i7-8700 and a Vega Frontier Edition GPU. I'm assembling one now, but with a RX 580, which ultimately cost me $1k (paid too much for the RX 580 because of the damn shitcoin craze driving up GPU prices)
MR4D 8y ago
SeekingAlpha really isn’t qualified to call a CPU a “beast”. Arstechnica or Engadget would be much better qualified to make that proclamation.
ksec 8y ago
1. It is Kaby Lake, Not Coffee Lake, no hardware fix for Meltdown and Spectre. 2. It isn't Vega, despite they claim it is. 3. It is ridiculously expensive for what it offer. 4. It isn't actually 100W TDP, actual testing shows it is close to 180 - 230W. 5. Seekingalpha wants people to buy Intel Stocks, which isn't exactly doing great at the moment, and has no future roadmap that points to growth, while I could list 4 pages of threats coming after them.

25 points by x0054 8y ago

They seem to just be reaching reviewers finally[1]. Looks like a great machine, tiny footprint, enormous horsepower (comparatively). 1: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12572/the-intel-hades-canyon-nuc8i7hvk-review-kaby-lakeg-benchmarked https://www.anandtech.com/show/12572/the-intel-hades-canyon-...

ktosobcy 8y ago

4 pages?! It looks interesting, but I would love to see such device with pure AMD stuff

aphextron 8y ago

Link to the product spec: https://www.simplynuc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/SimplyNUCProductBrief-NUC8i7HVK.pdf https://www.simplynuc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/SimplyN... This thing sounds amazing at $999. I just wish I had any need to upgrade.

WheelsAtLarge 8y ago
That's the base unit. You need to add the OS, mem and who knows what else. Expect to pay $1500+
- aphextron 8y ago
  >That's the base unit. You need to add the OS, mem and who knows what else. Expect to pay $1500+ It comes with 8GB and Linux is free. So it's more like $150 worth of DDR4 and you're set.

thepumpkin1979 8y ago

I can’t finish reading the article, it asks me to install an app.

walrus01 8y ago

$999 for something that can only handle 1080p at smooth framerates? Yes it's small, but you can build a mini-itx based motherboard system with either ryzen or 8th generation intel core i-whatever and a discrete $125 GPU that will probably run circles around it. 50-60 fps in doom at 1080p is not incredibly impressive, and that's for a single display. Now double that for two eye displays for VR and it'll fail to provide a smooth frame rate. The specs from Anandtech show it as $999 barebones and about $1615 of total components once RAM and SSD have been added. And it has a huge external power brick. Once you look at the size of the unit + power brick it's not much smaller than a cube shaped mini-itx case in terms of space occupied. For $1615, given two limitations (a) mini-itx case and motherboard and (b) use of discrete pci-express x16 3.0 nvidia GPU, i could build a system with significantly higher framerates in all tests.

craftyguy 8y ago
For $1615 you could easily build a mini-ITX system with an i7-8700 and a Vega Frontier Edition GPU. I'm assembling one now, but with a RX 580, which ultimately cost me $1k (paid too much for the RX 580 because of the damn shitcoin craze driving up GPU prices)

MR4D 8y ago

SeekingAlpha really isn’t qualified to call a CPU a “beast”. Arstechnica or Engadget would be much better qualified to make that proclamation.

ksec 8y ago

1. It is Kaby Lake, Not Coffee Lake, no hardware fix for Meltdown and Spectre. 2. It isn't Vega, despite they claim it is. 3. It is ridiculously expensive for what it offer. 4. It isn't actually 100W TDP, actual testing shows it is close to 180 - 230W. 5. Seekingalpha wants people to buy Intel Stocks, which isn't exactly doing great at the moment, and has no future roadmap that points to growth, while I could list 4 pages of threats coming after them.